Okay, so background: I'm your average pro-gun fuck-the-police, fuck-trump zoomer honed by years of unsupervised internet access and I've just discovered this community and started lurking for a while. But I still hold extremely negative views on China, which I still think are justified.

"Which views?" I'll throw them out real quick: child labor! internet censorship! media censorship! anti-LGBTQ! uygher genocide? positive and pro war relations with russia! (because fuck putin)

So I get really confused anytime I see people expressing pro-China sentiments. Have I been spoonfed by the media or are some of these points actually justified?

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    So, a friend of mine has been to China. We don't talk politics much, but they said they know people who know people that died in Tianemenn.

    Next time it comes up, should I say "lol no you dont?"

    • iie [they/them, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      iirc ~200ish people died in violent clashes with police in various other locations around the city. Very different from the image of police mowing down peaceful protesters in Tiananmen.

      Also worth noting that police were frightened after transport vehicles had been stopped and set on fire earlier, with unarmed police burned alive and their corpses strung from nooses in public. There are googleable photos online if you feel like seeing that. Articles I've read speculated that the protesters who did this might have been western agitators, since they were described as older and not looking like students. I'm remembering this from an article I read a few months ago. I can try to dig it up later, it might have been the one on redsails but idk.