I actually thought it was just a meme

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah it shits on that cope, but taking him back is really normalization of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.

    wouldn't have suggested otherwise.

    Mel Gibson said much less horrible shit in a drunken stupor and got ostracized from Hollywood for decades

    Mel Gibson's drunk rant in 2006 was far from his first antisemitic incident. it was just his most publicized one. Just look at Passion of the Christ. Also his drunk rant didn't "destroy his career for decades" like nazis with victim complexes would have you believe. He was directing, acting, and producing films all through the rest of the 00s as well as the 10s. The incident barely touched him. Go look at his IMDB credits.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Okay maybe ostracized from Hollywood is a bit of an exaggeration but if I'm reading those IMDB credits correctly he went from being a fairly large and bankable leading man to not doing anything for 5 years, then only doing bit parts and behind the scenes stuff. Still a pretty big hit to his career.

      And yes, the drunk shit wasn't the first time he's been antisemetic but the Alex Jones interview wasn't Kanyes first time either.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        he went from being a fairly large and bankable leading man to not doing anything for 5 years, then only doing bit parts and behind the scenes stuff. Still a pretty big hit to his career.

        I'd chalk that up to his age more than anything tbh. Dude was born in 1956. His "bankable leading man" years were during the heyday of Lethal Weapon, in the '80s. Lethal weapon 4 came out in '96. He became more of a director/producer in old age. Passion of the Christ I would say was his biggest antisemitic incident more than the drunk rant, because it was a big budget religious film viewed by Christians all over the world, and Mel Gibson specifically wanted the interpretation of the new testament that blames the Jews (not just the pharisees, but the Jews in general) for the death of Jesus Christ. Even more than the Romans. Both the ADL and the Vatican had reservations about this when looking at the script.

        And yes, the drunk shit wasn’t the first time he’s been antisemetic but the Alex Jones interview wasn’t Kanyes first time either.

        I know. There's some questionable lyrics about Jews in Kanye's song St. Pablo. Wouldn't suggest otherwise. I just have reservations about the narratives where either of these guys are framed as victims of ostracization. They repulsed everybody with their bigotry. They weren't abandoned unfairly, is all I'm getting at. Nor did they really suffer all that much career wise. Even if what you said about Gibson truly was a reaction to his bigotry rather than the tendency of older actors to get less leading roles, he still was making way more bank and living in way more luxury than your average person. Poor people living paycheck to paycheck have their careers end over far less. And the Screen Actors Guild didn't rescind his membership, so he still has union protection, too.

      • Goblinmancer [any]
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        2 years ago

        Ehh didnt he direct hacksaw ridge tho? Like maybe his acting career is finished but his directing career still going.