I actually thought it was just a meme

  • FortifiedAttack [any]
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    2 years ago

    Broke: Going back in time to kill Hitler.

    Bespoke: Going back in time to show Hitler 21 Jump Street starring Jonah Hill.

    • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      AskReddit tomorrow: If you could go back in time and show one person 21 Jump Street starring Jonah Hill, who would it be?

  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    adidas took him back which really flies in the face of all the 4chan nazis who were claiming his career was "destroyed" because he "dared to ask the jewish question."

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Yeah it shits on that cope, but taking him back is really normalization of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.

      Mel Gibson said much less horrible shit in a drunken stupor and got ostracized from Hollywood for decades. Sober Kanye says he "Looooooooves Nazis" and he's in the time out box for less than a year?

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Yeah it shits on that cope, but taking him back is really normalization of anti-semitism and Holocaust denial.

        wouldn't have suggested otherwise.

        Mel Gibson said much less horrible shit in a drunken stupor and got ostracized from Hollywood for decades

        Mel Gibson's drunk rant in 2006 was far from his first antisemitic incident. it was just his most publicized one. Just look at Passion of the Christ. Also his drunk rant didn't "destroy his career for decades" like nazis with victim complexes would have you believe. He was directing, acting, and producing films all through the rest of the 00s as well as the 10s. The incident barely touched him. Go look at his IMDB credits.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Okay maybe ostracized from Hollywood is a bit of an exaggeration but if I'm reading those IMDB credits correctly he went from being a fairly large and bankable leading man to not doing anything for 5 years, then only doing bit parts and behind the scenes stuff. Still a pretty big hit to his career.

          And yes, the drunk shit wasn't the first time he's been antisemetic but the Alex Jones interview wasn't Kanyes first time either.

          • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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            2 years ago

            he went from being a fairly large and bankable leading man to not doing anything for 5 years, then only doing bit parts and behind the scenes stuff. Still a pretty big hit to his career.

            I'd chalk that up to his age more than anything tbh. Dude was born in 1956. His "bankable leading man" years were during the heyday of Lethal Weapon, in the '80s. Lethal weapon 4 came out in '96. He became more of a director/producer in old age. Passion of the Christ I would say was his biggest antisemitic incident more than the drunk rant, because it was a big budget religious film viewed by Christians all over the world, and Mel Gibson specifically wanted the interpretation of the new testament that blames the Jews (not just the pharisees, but the Jews in general) for the death of Jesus Christ. Even more than the Romans. Both the ADL and the Vatican had reservations about this when looking at the script.

            And yes, the drunk shit wasn’t the first time he’s been antisemetic but the Alex Jones interview wasn’t Kanyes first time either.

            I know. There's some questionable lyrics about Jews in Kanye's song St. Pablo. Wouldn't suggest otherwise. I just have reservations about the narratives where either of these guys are framed as victims of ostracization. They repulsed everybody with their bigotry. They weren't abandoned unfairly, is all I'm getting at. Nor did they really suffer all that much career wise. Even if what you said about Gibson truly was a reaction to his bigotry rather than the tendency of older actors to get less leading roles, he still was making way more bank and living in way more luxury than your average person. Poor people living paycheck to paycheck have their careers end over far less. And the Screen Actors Guild didn't rescind his membership, so he still has union protection, too.

          • Goblinmancer [any]
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            2 years ago

            Ehh didnt he direct hacksaw ridge tho? Like maybe his acting career is finished but his directing career still going.

      • Goblinmancer [any]
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        2 years ago

        Because apparenly Kanye has bipolar disorder. Like perhaps other people could correct me but I've never heard of other cases of bipolar causing you turn into super Nazi and that hes rich AF and actually can afford treatment so uhh.

        • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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          2 years ago

          I mean, I've heard descriptions of Bipolar episodes leading to psychosis, and I dont see why nazi conspiracy shit would be less believable for someone to start believing under psychosis than shit like aliens or space nazis beaming into their brain and draining their precious fluids.

          But thats all for a medical professional to deal with, any speculation that goes beyond "its a possibility that needs to be investigated" is kind of a soft apologism. It could equally be the case that he believes nazi shit the regular way too and whatever mental health problems he has going on just removed the self-awareness and control that is necessary to not just yell "I LOVE HITLER" out loud on a broadcast interview.

        • Icarium [comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          I have bipolar type 2, it doesn’t make you a hateful loser. He’s just an ass who is making us look bad by blaming it on his illness.

        • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          2 years ago

          There is a theory that once you get that rich and have it all, the wealthy sometimes just likes to start shit because they are extremely bored.

          Of course it's probably because they're pieces of shit, but I wouldn't put it past them.

        • MerryChristmas [any]
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          2 years ago

          Bipolar I won't make you into a Nazi but the manic episodes are much more extreme than the hypo-manic episodes people with Bipolar II tend to get, and for some reason that often gets lost in the discourse. It doesn't excuse him at all, but I do want to make it clear that these sort of delusions - as in grand conspiracies, not Nazi shit - are common during manic episodes.

          I think in this case the simplest explanation is the correct one: Kanye stopped taking his meds and spent too much time on 4chan. Since most celebrities are emotionally stunted adults, it's no surprise that many of them fall into the same cultural demographic as teenage boys.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    This strikes me as completely insincere 4chan-esque trolling. Haha yeah gaiz I'm totally reformed I watched 21 jump street and that makes me not an antisemite now, knowing full fucking well the media is so ridiculous that they will print it, and also knowing full well that actual fascists will argue with people claiming they're being hysterical trying to say it's not sincere. They will have a blast doing it too. It's literally dog doing nazi salutes style ""humour"" that actually isn't.

    Fuck him.

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    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I don't think Kanye West is in stable enough of a mental condition to express that level of sarcasm. I don't think he understands what's he's talking about either.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Stability isn't the issue here. Plenty of nazis shoot themselves in the head. Does their mental instability absolve them of being nazis? Absolutely not.

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    2 years ago

    Idk if they got him on new meds or if he came out of an episode but this is like legitimately self-aware and "clever" in a way.

    Hopefully it doesnt actually work and people are just appreciating the absurdity of it, but he both seriously needs to not fucking be in the public sphere again for the sake of the people he spouted conspiracies about(Jewish people mainly), as well as obviously to receive some kind of long term aid that he hasnt been getting.

  • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Did he ever call himself an antisemite or is this just "please stop calling me an antisemite"

    Fuck him either way, just curious

  • StalinForTime [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Is this manufacturing consent for his Redemption Arc?

    Will he betray and duel Candace Owens in the season finale?

  • Spirit_of_Zpostig [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Out of all the ways you can try, and fail, to make up for openly admitting you're a hitlerite fascist Kanye chooses to say a movie changed his mind?

    America is truly disconnected from material reality

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      2 years ago

      i mean what exactly is the difference? plenty of mentally healthy people believe heinous shit, but they're sensitive to social pressure to not look like a hateful asshole.

    • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      yea, didn't he stop taking meds because he suspected his therapist was manipulating him or something?