I dont want to get too high on copium but is this the fall of Isreal and the West I've been hearing so much about?

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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        I genuinely don’t get it. I would think Israel’s whole gimmick would only work with recognition of the state of Palestine.

        If Palestine is a state, you can act like this is a war between equally powerful states where civilians are unfortunately caught in the crossfire. If Palestine isn’t a state, you’re bombing a captive population within your own territory.

    • SteamedHamberder [he/him]
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      25 days ago

      The 2 state solution if for Western Libs. The Israeli Right wants annexation, settlement expansion, and population transfer.

  • itappearsthat [he/him]
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    25 days ago

    Israel’s finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, said Israel should approve three new settlements in the occupied West Bank, one for each country that recognized a Palestinian state, and cut funding for the Palestinian Authority.

    Very illuminating!!!

  • plinky [he/him]
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    25 days ago

    No sanctions no divestment, what are the borders of palestine? shit-tier civility bit

  • kristina [she/her]
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    25 days ago

    im genuinely surprised ireland had yet to recognize palestine

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    25 days ago

    this is good for pissing off the zionist entity, but palestinians want material support

  • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    is this the fall of Isreal and the West I’ve been hearing so much about?

    No, they just oppose shit so ghoulish that even liberals are getting second thoughts. When it ends, it will be back to slurping boot and China bad.

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    Honestly thought there would be at least one other "Western" country that recognized Palestine since Sweden did it ten years ago, but apparently not.

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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    anyone have any insight on why spain and norway in particular are doing this? ireland is obvious but spain and norway seem kinda outta left field to be doing something based (even if it is literally the bare minimum)

    Death to America

    • HeavenAndEarth [she/her]
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      76 Spanish Universities also broke ties with Israeli institutions https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/spanish-universities-to-break-ties-with-israeli-institutions-not-committed-to-peace-/3214932

    • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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      Norway is home of the Nobel Peace Prize. They also had a major NGO presence in Palestine. The political conditions might be such that their self-image, or at least the self-image of a sufficient number of the political influencers, requires them to speak up.

      Spain I have no idea.

  • LaughingLion [any, any]
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    25 days ago

    the faces of everyone who says they believe in a two state solution when other countries start recognizing two states

    shocked-pikachu

  • @freagle@lemmygrad.ml
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    25 days ago

    I dont want to get too high on copium but is this the fall of Isreal and the West I’ve been hearing so much about?

    It's not the fall, it's a conflict that has emerged from the inherent contradictions. The conflict could escalate, wherein participants like these 3 countries could oppose the USA more forcefully, but it would likely entail a few other EU countries to escalate as well. Then the conflict will spread to be intra-EU as well. Most likely the result of this escalation would be subverting the little democracy in those countries and steering elections to compliant leaders who will crush domestic opposition. So, if this is the beginning of that fall, there's about to be a lot of "weird shit" happening in European electoralism in the next 5 years.