(cw: one paragraph mentions Vaush's origins)

  • lott [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    I don't like this "the state is cracking down harder, that means we must be doing something right" analysis. The state is not omniscient, it doesn't always act on rational calculation. State action alone isn't sufficient proof for the efficacy of a political movement

  • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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    2 years ago

    First bit is a good summary of modern COINTELPRO and how they recruit pseudo-leftists indirectly thru higher education (that was a scathing background-check of Vaush holy hell). Second bit is the kind of hilariously specific laying out of the "real movement" that you always get from orgs who overestimate their own importance.

    There's a clear tone shift the moment he goes from explaining fed subversion with grounded evidence, to reverse-engineering a reason for this handful of orgs he just happens to be familiar with must be the main targets of this subversion. He uses a bunch of implications that imply other things. Read the analysis but once it stops, read between the lines a bit.

  • AHopeOnceMore [he/him]B
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    2 years ago

    Stopped paying attention around the part where he starts talking positively about Rage Against the War Machine. Given that the topic is basically fed-dar and recognizing liberal cooption, that's pretty hilarious.

    • happybadger [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Defending CPI too. Fuck no. Even without Caleb Maupin, and I'll judge them by the company they keep and platform, they're phrenologically feds: https://imgur.io/5ViAu9X

      If that isn't a psyop, it's too cringe to be associated with them. The world's oldest Che Guevara Shirt Kids.

  • fart_the_peehole [he/him,any]
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    2 years ago

    I agree with what's been posted elsewhere that he has a good analysis of the state but a pretty bad analysis of those orgs and a bad understanding of Marxism. The question of whether or not Russia is imperialist is linked but separate from the question of how the war in Ukraine is reconfiguring global markets and how that affects prospects for struggle in different places. Likewise the question of who has published intentionally non-NATO takes on Ukraine and who the state might be currently aiming at is separate from who is going to effectively lead the revolution. Insisting we join with these groups through social media polemics, instead of showing they have found a practice worth emulating and joining through actual deep, wide mobilization, is not going to build them into revolutionary organizations.

    Most western leftists with a decent understanding of what's going on in the world still seem to think that we can just sit back and continue using our old failed tactics and strategy and these worsening conditions will somehow make reformist practice correct. Setting aside some truly awful takes and the fact that these orgs do not actually practice democratic centralism, most of them have no program of political education at all or their program is stale and alienating because it reflects their laziness and orientation towards social media.

    • emizeko [they/them]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      can't tell if serious, he's a little florid but I don't see anything horribly problematic? let me know what I'm missing if so

      • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Hes a dumb egotistical blogger who I'm pretty sure is a LaRouchite with no actual organizing experience and a history of embarrassing hyper-online nonsense and dumb politics like outright support for Russia's invasion and defending dumb shit like the Jimmy Dore's Rage Against the War Machine event last month.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      I can't take Shea seriously after his pathetic attempt at trying to smear Gerald Horne, especially when it was extremely obvious he didn't actually read the fucking book. And much like the same way Maupin attempted to fedjacket Sakai for being some imaginary figure made up by the feds despite copious interviews done by Sakai and other books he has written, Shea is doing so exclusively for cringey patsoc reasons. Shea and Maupin and Haz and the rest of the patsoc losers do not have a simple answer to this very important question: why has the white working class in the US repeatedly fail to struggle in solidarity with the Black and Indigenous working class?

      I'll let one of the comments of his trash post speak for itself:

      Comrade, the bottom line for me is the question, "so are working-class Euro/Americans organized against racism or not?" The answer is 'no' at present, which makes the high-energy accusations against Horne's class collaboration thesis more of a distraction to the point of self-deception, even if true. The value of dissecting Horne's work is microscopic, compared to American socialism's centuries-old elephantine contradiction, which is core to his thesis: that progressive forces among working-class Euro/Americans have not been able to successfully organize among their race, despite acknowledging that capitalism uses race to control them as much as it does other racialized groups.

      "A final word: progressive, white Americans must succeed in overturning their own racism, in theory and practice, if a successful revolution can be achieved in this country, which will in the process write the final page on Black underdevelopment. Nothing short of a commitment to racial equality and Black freedom such as that exhibited by the militant abolitionist John Brown will be sufficient. Nothing less than the political recognition that white racism is an essential and primary component in the continued exploitation of all American people will be enough to defeat the capitalist class." -- Manning Marable, "How Capitalism Underdeveloped Black America"

      Critiquing a Black historian's work on class-collaboration will have more credibility when working-class Euro/American centuries-long social and political practices no longer support his thesis.

      • mrbigcheese [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Yes exactly ty, idk why anyone would actually take this random irrelevant blogger dude seriously.

  • mkultrawide [any]
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    2 years ago

    "The people who criticized the anti-war rally that let an active commission US Army officer speak at it are actually feds"