• usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I have been through great suffering over the course of my life when I was a child I almost died from a horrific illness and it instilled in me a burning desire to live. Because of this I find it hard to appreciate your position

    Life is a beautiful thing and even the pain I have suffered made me who I am and I would not trade it away if I could. You cannot know ahead of time that someone won't think their life was worth living

    • Ligma_Male [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I have been through great suffering over the course of my life when I was a child I almost died from a horrific illness and it instilled in me a burning desire to live. Because of this I find it hard to appreciate your position

      wanting to never have been born and wanting to die are very very different things.

      and even the pain I have suffered made me who I am and I would not trade it away if I could.

      that's your choice to make but the question is whether it's OK to put somebody else through what you've been through without being able to ask them.

      You cannot know ahead of time that someone won’t think their life was worth living

      that isn't equivalent to my statement, we know with 100% certainty that people will suffer for being alive, even if it's just aches or boredom or something trivial. It wouldn't be moral to go around zapping people with a device that made people experience the unpleasant sensation that happens when your foot falls asleep.

      nothing is lost if somebody doesn't exist in the first place but pain is guaranteed if they do.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        everything is lost if somebody doesn't exist. Everytime they help another, every moment of fellowship, everytime they experience beauty, contentment and joy

        if the cost of existence is that sometimes you have to experience pain and discomfort then it's a bargain at twice the price

        I know with the same certainty you do that just as everyone will suffer so too will they experience pleasure and cause pleasure in others.

          • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I don't think you're being sensitive I think you're being dissmissive and fatalistic

            if you define yourself by your pain it consumes you