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    • KnilAdlez [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      California, Oregon, and washington would control most of the trade to the rest of the states. They would stand the best chance of coming out relatively unscathed. Though if they would actually take advantage of that is another question entirely.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      1 year ago

      yeah, the people calling for balkanization WANT those chunks of America to wither, they just assume the chunk they live in won't be one of the losers. Critical thinking skills are not taught in American schools.

      • edge [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        yeah, the people calling for balkanization WANT those chunks of America to wither

        No, I want America's global hegemony to die.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          1 year ago

          Me too, the difference being that CHUDs who want that assume they'll be immune. Somehow.

          • mars [none/use name]
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            1 year ago

            They have a wall in their garage add-on with 15 impractically high caliber handguns and collectors rifles, guaranteeing their future access to all treats and necessities

      • DoubleShot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        When I try to engage other Americans on this topic, they all seem to be infected with a somewhat unique American brainworm that "everything will work out in the end". They'll say things like "OK sure prices will go way up and the economy will collapse without dollar hegemony... but that's just in the short term. We're Americans, we'll get it all sorted out". If they're conservative they'll add something about how less regulations or whatever and unfettered capitalism will allow us to recover quickly.

        IMO, this idea that "everything will work out OK in the end" is caused by the unique situation that materially, for white Americans, everything sorta has worked out in their favor for the last 400 years. And American media heavily reinforces this idea. Try to imagine an American show or movie where things don't work out for the protagonists eventually. This isn't even a conspiracy or anything, just your regular ol' base informing the superstructure.

        • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          IMO, this idea that “everything will work out OK in the end” is caused by the unique situation that materially, for white Americans, everything sorta has worked out in their favor for the last 400 years.

          There are deep roots to this in American protestantism. I can not tell you how many times I have had constructive conversations shut down because "Well if I'm dying and going to heaven does that really matter?" It's a similar sentiment. It's not just a saccharin optimism, it's an optimism that comes from perceiving yourself as/being part of The Elect (see: Prosperity Gospel here as well.)

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          1 year ago

          Is this why western test audiences get really annoyed at movies with tragic or even just ambiguous endings?