Do people who are against universal healthcare realize it has worked in nearly every other country in the global north for decades, and currently at half the cost of total healthcare in the US? I mean, it can't all just be bad faith arguing, can it?
This, there’s a lot of scaremongering over death panels, or insane wait times, or inferior treatment in countries with nationalized healthcare. And maybe there’s a little truth to these accusations, but in America you effectively deal with things like that if you’re not a millionaire. It’s not unheard of for someone to just die instead of getting treatment because they can’t afford it, or have to settle for a crappy doctor/hospital because it’s all their insurance covers.
My dad has been quoting the same unnamed friend who had to wait a few months for an elective knee surgery for years. "Okay but in the US they just would not get surgery at all" doesn't phase him. Idfk.
I think there's even less than "little" truth to those accusations. "Death panels" just simply aren't a thing. Patients in the US already wait hours in the ED for non-emergent problems, and seeing a specialist can take weeks to months for many people. And if anything people get inferior treatment NOW because insurance companies literally deny patients certain medications or treatments. Not to mention all the coding regulations that just add bloat to charting, all so that insurance companies can pay out a lower amount if all their arbitrary hoops haven't been jumped through.
"I don't want the government to be in charge of healthcare!" So you'd rather have a private company that A) exists solely to say "no" as often as they possibly can and B) isn't ran by healthcare professionals who like, you know, know medicine?
Plus all the other financial and moral incentives to switch to a single payer system. In my opinion there is not a single GOOD reason why we should keep the current system. Literally none of the arguments hold any water.
Edit: oh and also universal healthcare would cost less in the long run because there would be more effort on the preventative side of things. PLUS, people would seek help for problems sooner and disease processes would be caught sooner when they are cheaper to treat, rather than wait until they are on death's doorstep and a problem that could have been fixed for $50,000 is now a multi-million dollar problem.
You know how the average suburbanite American would literally stab their siblings If it guaranteed they a slightly better car? It’s that mentality but for doctors appointments.
Do people who are against universal healthcare realize it has worked in nearly every other country in the global north for decades, and currently at half the cost of total healthcare in the US? I mean, it can't all just be bad faith arguing, can it?
Americans are fed mountains of bullshit for our entire lives about basically everything so it's hard to tell sometimes.
This, there’s a lot of scaremongering over death panels, or insane wait times, or inferior treatment in countries with nationalized healthcare. And maybe there’s a little truth to these accusations, but in America you effectively deal with things like that if you’re not a millionaire. It’s not unheard of for someone to just die instead of getting treatment because they can’t afford it, or have to settle for a crappy doctor/hospital because it’s all their insurance covers.
My dad has been quoting the same unnamed friend who had to wait a few months for an elective knee surgery for years. "Okay but in the US they just would not get surgery at all" doesn't phase him. Idfk.
I think there's even less than "little" truth to those accusations. "Death panels" just simply aren't a thing. Patients in the US already wait hours in the ED for non-emergent problems, and seeing a specialist can take weeks to months for many people. And if anything people get inferior treatment NOW because insurance companies literally deny patients certain medications or treatments. Not to mention all the coding regulations that just add bloat to charting, all so that insurance companies can pay out a lower amount if all their arbitrary hoops haven't been jumped through.
"I don't want the government to be in charge of healthcare!" So you'd rather have a private company that A) exists solely to say "no" as often as they possibly can and B) isn't ran by healthcare professionals who like, you know, know medicine?
Plus all the other financial and moral incentives to switch to a single payer system. In my opinion there is not a single GOOD reason why we should keep the current system. Literally none of the arguments hold any water.
Edit: oh and also universal healthcare would cost less in the long run because there would be more effort on the preventative side of things. PLUS, people would seek help for problems sooner and disease processes would be caught sooner when they are cheaper to treat, rather than wait until they are on death's doorstep and a problem that could have been fixed for $50,000 is now a multi-million dollar problem.
American Exceptionalism
If it hasn't worked here it ain't worked yet.
It's that (willful) conflation of healthcare and health insurance. They hear "you'll lose your insurance plan!" and don't listen to the rest
You know how the average suburbanite American would literally stab their siblings If it guaranteed they a slightly better car? It’s that mentality but for doctors appointments.
American exceptionalism. We're the best at being willfully swindled
Does it count as bad faith if the people actually believe the bullshit?