reminds me of when hillary said "we will never win against China unless we take back the means of production"

    • Rojo27 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      "We have contractors that do the work"

      So what the fuck do you call that Marco, if not a "commercial-military fusion"?:jesse-wtf:

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Americans invented military-commercial fission and have been resting on their laurels ever since.

  • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    That's weird, how can anyone possible use capitalism against anyone? From what I have been told the market is efficient and if we just let things play out, then the right people will get the money. So if China attracts investors, and investors flock to China, then they must be providing good returns on investment. If you want to stop that then you need to provide even better investments. You can't invoke the state to step in on your behalf to shut out a large part of the market. That would be bad capitalism.

    Hmmm something fishy about all this free market stuff, what could it be?

      • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Harley's marketing people must be the dumbest MBAs on the planet, they went through the "scrambler" craze with what is basically a modern version of an original scrambler dressed up with skulls and slammer shocks. All they needed to do was put taller shocks onto the sportster and a bench seat and price it competitively against the triumph and ducati scramblers and they would have sold a ton and gotten a bunch of people who would never buy a Harley in the door.

        • Pseudoplatanus22 [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          They had Buell for a while, which kind of did just that. Then Harley shut them down, and sealed their own fate. The Harley owner demographic is aging steadily, and now they're starting to go for trikes instead of bikes - which Harley can do of course, but it doesn't bode well for the future.

          Edit - I just looked them up, and Buell are now developing new models under new management! I'll be interested to see what they come up with next.

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            The new Buell company is doing some interesting (but expensive) stuff, it would be cool if they can do something fun and not as expensive as a new sedan though. Erik Buell s doing an electric bike thing called Fuell now.

          • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            The XR1200 was a good looking bike and probably rides great, but it's too street-bikey in appearance (and came our right after the damn '08 crash). Lawdy if they'd bothered to make a proper flat tracker with a 19" rear wheel (and leveraged some tire manufacturer to start making a decent street 19" rear tire) they wouldn't be able to keep them in stock. Now that they've killed the Evo motor it's a done deal, but imagine what could have been with a factory Hooligan flat tracker.

              • nat_turner_overdrive [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                There's some great sportster scrambler builds over on advrider.com, too. Check out Phil Little's tracker parts: https://phillittleracing.com/motorcycle/xrx-sportster-street-tracker-kit

                Of greatest note is the steer tube insert he sells to steepen the head angle to 27.5*, seems very cool.

  • CommunistBear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Every time these ghouls try to fear monger about China it makes me love it more :china:

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      The ones at higher levels of somewhat strategic thought are being forced to increasingly say things clearly and without filter because it is absolutely necessary for them to get across to the rest of their utterly uneducated colleagues what the reality of the situation is.

      I am certain that a large quantity of people within the US establishment completely believe their own propaganda and are absolutely riddled with brainworms. This works against them as large chunks of them are incapable of performing independent strategic actions that align with the necessary over-arching strategies. Most of them are incapable of assessing things correctly, the US would never be able to performing realpolitik today because they have riddled themselves with too many brainworms.

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      China is one of the few sources of hopium I have left in this world.

  • happyandhappy [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It's interesting to watch the world start to attempt to copy the Chinese miracle and we already see rhetoric (although it's unclear how it translates to action) from countries like Saudi Arabia and India praising the Chinese model.

    What I'm saying is this new cold war we're gonna get evil dengism-bidenism for real.

    • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I can see these attempts failing because because those other countries aren't governed by a communist party

      • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Later:

        Saudi Arabia: [Attempts socialism with Chinese characteristics, minus the Chinese characteristics and also minus the socialism; isn't any better off for it in the end]
        The West: "Ya see? Communism doesn't work"

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    no separation between advancements in health care technology, biomedicine, whatever it might be— and the interests of the state

    this is supposed to be bad?

    EDIT: misremembered what he said, corrected

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It’s like Vegeto and Gogeta are totally different characters. One comes from the fusion dance and the other is comes from Potara earrings. They are totally different characters even though they have the same movesets, power levels, goals, objectives, personalities. It’s totally different you guys.

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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    2 years ago

    Sometimes I can't tell if they know the extent of the bullshit they're spewing

    • MalarchoBidenism [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I was gonna make a post about this (I forgor💀), but there's a clip of Reagan doing a speech where he says the next logical step in the US and Western Europe is "employee ownership".

      We tend to think of the ruling class as being very class conscious and deliberately deceiving the working class, but most of them probably are just as brainwormed as the average liberal / conservative. The result is the same though. :desolate:

      • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The scariest thing about this world is that good people with good intentions can end up doing a lot of harm (not that I think any US politician, especially not Rubio is a good person with good intentions).

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I assume that just means "employees should get stocks!" which is less socialism and more a way of getting the working class to sympathize with the bourgeoisie, much like capitalist home-ownership turns everyone into a petit bourg.

        • KoeRhee [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Yeah, Reagan was the one responsible for the American retirement system outside of social security shifting from a pension based system to a 401k based one.