Ok let’s engage with this take then: Christianity Capitalism bad; what do you want people to do? Do you want billions of people to abandon it? What if they don’t want to do that? Are you going to re-educate them? They’re not going to want that either. You want to wipe us out? Right? That’s the end goal that you want if you think we’re all scum my guy.
All I’m asking of you is what you want Christians Capitalists to do; they’re not going to lay down and have thousands of years of tradition be destroyed.
This rhetoric is so tedious and I hope this illustrates why.
And so fucking what if I have viewpoints that go beyond socialism?
As a person it doesn't matter, but this conversation was explicitly in the context of the intersection between Christianity and socialism so I don't get why you're angry that I'm pointing out incompatibilities between Christianity and socialism.
I’ll be fucking judged for how I act in this life
This is pretty fundamental to the issue, I'd think. Why would I want to believe that there's an omnipotent, omniscient deity out there whose morality, at least as it manifests in the book people who believe in him claim is central to that belief, is probably alien to my own. Why do so many of this teaching's followers believe that this judgment gives them the right to treat people who are perceived to be on the wrong side of it as inferiors?
What is the fucking end goal of communism if people can enjoy or explore things that aren’t trying to feed themselves? People WILL have religions and spiritual beliefs, people WILL HAVE PHILOSOPHIES that aren’t purely Marxist and maybe that isn’t always a bad thing.
You're moving the goalposts. We're not discussing the benefit of religion, spiritual beliefs, and philosophies (which are not things that deserve to be lumped together, imho) in the broad sense, we're discussing a specific religious belief.
This rhetoric is so tedious and I hope this illustrates why.
As a person it doesn't matter, but this conversation was explicitly in the context of the intersection between Christianity and socialism so I don't get why you're angry that I'm pointing out incompatibilities between Christianity and socialism.
This is pretty fundamental to the issue, I'd think. Why would I want to believe that there's an omnipotent, omniscient deity out there whose morality, at least as it manifests in the book people who believe in him claim is central to that belief, is probably alien to my own. Why do so many of this teaching's followers believe that this judgment gives them the right to treat people who are perceived to be on the wrong side of it as inferiors?
You're moving the goalposts. We're not discussing the benefit of religion, spiritual beliefs, and philosophies (which are not things that deserve to be lumped together, imho) in the broad sense, we're discussing a specific religious belief.