I just lost my job as a civil engineer and I’ve been trying to find resources, forums, staffing agencies, etc to help land me a job and all of what’s out there online talks about faang, leetcode, programming bullshit, etc. Call yourselves Computer scientists, programmers, hogs, i don’t care, please for the love just stop dominating all the ‘engineering’ discourse.
I am a computer nerd, but I agree. Everybody thinks doctors need training and certification. Even countries that really invest in their medical system don't make it easier to become a doctor, they just create systems that give more people the opportunity (Cuba).
My understanding is that civil engineering, or the other traditional kinda, are the same way. You have professional certifications, standards, and associations. In CS, we have none of that. The only certs are resume boosters sold by big companies. There are no professional organizations with any influence. The only time we have standards is when the entire industry fucks up really badly; see pci security requirements.
I think programming could become real engineering in the future, but it will take decades or a century for the industry to sort itself out first.