i haven't read any of his books or studies, but i've seen Spotlight a bunch of times. every time some religious-pedo phenomenon surfaces, i keep coming back to something they had Richard Sipe say in a phone interview, about how the celibacy requirement creates a "culture of secrecy" as somewhere around half of monks/priests and nuns are regularly having sex (mostly with other adults). as in, the celibacy/secrecy aspect isn't necessary causal, but it creates an environment where predatory abuse can fester.
and, i say this as someone who has gotten comfort from certain translations of buddhist texts and as someone who doesn't fuck a lot, it has never really sat well with me how enchanted westerners (or others) are with self-abnegation. for example, i know a lot of people who are "blown away" by Jiddu Krishnamurti and how he was "too enlightened" for romantic/interpersonal relationships. i read books of his and, even at the height of my obsession with metaphysical philosophy, i found him like mostly full of shit... or basically hinging his cleverness on pedantry/rhetorical play. and the whole thing where he was alone all his life... like maybe it's not because he was "too enlightened".... maybe he was just a loner, disinterested in people, or had an attachment disorder from being raised oddly.
anyway, not sure where i was going with this or why, but the dalai lama is a certified freak.
Having a culture that demonizes normal sexual interaction, fetishizes chastity and pressures people into becoming weird sexless creeps actually just fosters sexual abuse :shocked-pikachu:
There's something in the western imagination about being a loner that gives a person certain wisdom. While that's maybe true that solitude can give a person a certain sense of themselves, it's typically not healthy to be isolated and without relationships.
This is a really neat criticism of cultures of enforced celibacy, and the use of social isolation or ostracization as a form of "punitive reform"; which you will immediately abandon the second anyone actually asks you to do anything about it, because you are in fact all as individualistic & freedom-brained as any other lib or chud when it comes to questions of how people should actually relate to eachother in a society.
what the shit.
i haven't read any of his books or studies, but i've seen Spotlight a bunch of times. every time some religious-pedo phenomenon surfaces, i keep coming back to something they had Richard Sipe say in a phone interview, about how the celibacy requirement creates a "culture of secrecy" as somewhere around half of monks/priests and nuns are regularly having sex (mostly with other adults). as in, the celibacy/secrecy aspect isn't necessary causal, but it creates an environment where predatory abuse can fester.
and, i say this as someone who has gotten comfort from certain translations of buddhist texts and as someone who doesn't fuck a lot, it has never really sat well with me how enchanted westerners (or others) are with self-abnegation. for example, i know a lot of people who are "blown away" by Jiddu Krishnamurti and how he was "too enlightened" for romantic/interpersonal relationships. i read books of his and, even at the height of my obsession with metaphysical philosophy, i found him like mostly full of shit... or basically hinging his cleverness on pedantry/rhetorical play. and the whole thing where he was alone all his life... like maybe it's not because he was "too enlightened".... maybe he was just a loner, disinterested in people, or had an attachment disorder from being raised oddly.
anyway, not sure where i was going with this or why, but the dalai lama is a certified freak.
Having a culture that demonizes normal sexual interaction, fetishizes chastity and pressures people into becoming weird sexless creeps actually just fosters sexual abuse :shocked-pikachu:
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There's something in the western imagination about being a loner that gives a person certain wisdom. While that's maybe true that solitude can give a person a certain sense of themselves, it's typically not healthy to be isolated and without relationships.
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This is a really neat criticism of cultures of enforced celibacy, and the use of social isolation or ostracization as a form of "punitive reform"; which you will immediately abandon the second anyone actually asks you to do anything about it, because you are in fact all as individualistic & freedom-brained as any other lib or chud when it comes to questions of how people should actually relate to eachother in a society.
New account coming out swingin lol
New account, old poster. :edgeworth-shrug:
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