Oh okay, so you shouldn't mind if I send a rich guy into the vacuum of space unprotected then, if ones circumstances mean nothing.

Surely he could entrepreneur himself some oxygen while he's out there. Why would he need to be on Earth with breathable air? After all, personal choices are all that matter, right? So he should be able to succeed in any environment.

  • D61 [any]
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    2 years ago

    "If a millionaire found himself with no money he would naturally become rich again because rich people make good choices."

    :mao-aggro-shining: Then you won't mind if I take all their wealth and give it to the poor, right?

  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is probably half true for rich people who are genuine sociopaths. There was a reality show that did this experiment essentially, and all the millionaires just lied and essentially stole money from people lol.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      And this behavior is held up as the admirable gold standard of human virtue, rather than what it actually is, a symptom of a mental illness.

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        If anything sociopaths and compulsive liars succeeding is evidence contrary to the claim that this is human nature. If it were people would be less trusting and sociopaths would have a more difficult time lol

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    Oh okay, so you shouldn’t mind if I send a rich guy into the vacuum of space unprotected then

    You don't even have to go that far. Sending people into orbit is incredibly expensive, after all.

    Just move said millionaire-mindset folks to the thing they keep asking for - Galt's Gulch. Find a nice little valley in the Montana wilderness and set up a small township, with the rudimentary basics - tents for shelter, a stream with water the FDA has declared potable, access to some reasonably arable land and a stockpile of foodstuffs to see the initial inhabitants through the winter. Then let these ubermensch recreate society in their perfect image, secluded from the world such that nasty externalities like Federal Reserve interest rates and the villainous Chinese export markets can't interfere with their Utopian project.

    No rules. No regulations. No consequences other than what thy choose to inflict on each other. Just a heavily militarized border that keeps them safe from the outside world, unlimited opportunity to Do As Thou Wilt, and a camera crew to document their individualist success stories that can be syndicated for the education of the idiot populist socialist loser masses.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      POTABLE water? woah there Rockefeller, this is America, you’d better ask Nestlé first.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        I assume the board's opinions will be better manifest from within the camp than without.

        Once they're free to exhert full uninhibited control over local potable water, we can let the free market sort out the best measure of potability.

  • Carmine2 [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    damn thats great. just tax them for over 100% of their wealth and they'll print money in a few days.

  • qaopjlll [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    All the millionaires who killed themselves after losing everything in the 2008 financial collapse are millionaires again now in heaven <3

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  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is the exact type of mindset that “justifies” poverty, houselessness, and generally anti-social behaviors.

    Americans specifically believe that wealth and well-being are moral (even divine) choices. You are poor because you’re a bad person. They are rich because they are good person, and good people are rewarded. As such it’s okay for poor people to suffer because they are bad. As such it’s good that the wealthy become more wealthy because they are good.

    It’s really a terrible pro status-quo ideology. It’s really baked in with that “ I am the Protagonist of reality” + “Protestant work ethic/ prosperity gospel” + “Neoliberalism thinking” mindset that has been constructed. All things that happen to you are your own greatness made manifest, and everything bad that happens to others is because they are wicked and the universe is punishing them for not being like you.

    I fuckin’ hate that moral worth somehow has a dollar sign attached to it.

  • DoghouseCharlie [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Always struck me as odd that we claim America is the land of opportunities but also having opportunities doesn't matter, just boot straps.

  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This actually means millionairs are a renewable resources. Once one makes enough money just take it. They will make more and not even miss it.

  • christian [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Your analogy is ridiculous and is totally missing a huge point, circumstances obviously mean something if they're bad. If the millionaire finds himself with no money, that's just not a difficult circumstance. I think we can all agree that merely existing as a poor person in western society could never be considered to be harsh and unforgiving.