I’ve seen some very heated debates by leftists on both sides of the argument that have left me very confused.

  • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Sex work is work that involves sex or sex-adjacent activities.

    A lot of westerners get upset when non-westerners don't view it positively, as if western countries aren't the only ones comfortable enough to choose their professions a lot of the time. That's not to say every sex worker in the west chose their profession or is happy, or that every sex worker in the global south is trafficked and miserable, but when you compare the two, it's likely that the westerner is comfortable in every way. Many countries outside of the west have been colonized and have seen sexual violence on their populations by foreigners, and that continues today, so that's the basis of their judgement. If you don't know the history of a country, you should keep your mouth shut before blabbing on about changes in policies for a place you don't live in.

    There are many socialists today who think ALL sex work will be abolished if socialism were to be achieved. I can see jobs like prostitution being abolished or become unpopular because there is no incentive to do that work - obviously some people simply like sex and will find a way to get their rocks off, and so called "sex therapy" is such a niche career that no one talks about it. A lot of people, mainly women, don't want to be in a situation where they'll be killed or beaten with a client. Maybe a rating system and prostitution being legalized will fix it, but I don't know. Maybe look at Amsterdam's policies and see if the results are good and can be expanded under a socialist society. But again, there won't be much of an incentive to do it. But I don't believe complete equality will ever achieved, so there will be people who fall through the cracks regardless of the society they live in, so just like how they'll smoke the opium of the masses when they're desperate, they'll resort to whatever job is available to survive. Treating them like horrid criminal demons instead of incorporating them into your society won't do anyone any good.

    But sex work isn't just fucking. For example, porn and stripping are just essentially forms of entertainment. People will still do that, but I imagine studios or bar will be more worker oriented or performers will be independent. People are delusional if you think that stuff will disappear. Unlike prostitution, porn can be done privately, and stripping usually doesn't allow touching, so there are more incentives to do those things even if your needs are met under socialism.

    It's weird that people view sex work as some unique evil in this world. Sure, sex work causes alienation. But why does that bother you when you're priaising McDonald's and Starbucks workers for unionizing? They literally sell poison to people. And you likely contribute the the slaughter of children in the global south by making money for your company that buys stocks in Lockheed Martin. What I'm saying is that all these jobs suck whether you like them or not. To me, there is no difference between a poor person who becomes becomes a software developer and makes $100k and a poor person who becomes an independent sex worker who makes $100k. They will all cause suffering to someone and it's best to try to support workers until we find a new path forward. Even if you think sex work is bad, it's dumb to fixate on it. Besides, if you're a third worldist then you should celebrate because it means westoids are becoming more and more miserable and lonely.