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Warning: very graphic video released from the shooting of two Tulsa officers in a traffic stop. One of them died. This is what they face on a daily basis. Tasers & pepper spray often don’t work. Remember this scene when you are quick to condemn officers in escalating situations pic.twitter.com/pYjPH9CCtq— Jessica (Fletcher) O’Donnell (@heckyessica) September 15, 2020

i guess this is the only path left open for police reform. self-defense. if public policy won't change, maybe a body count will put them in line? i wish it weren't this way, because it will also mean more people being killed by police as they start doing retaliatory killings. which i guess will escalate the riots. to what end, i do not know.

have to say i am pleased to read the replies, too. some bootlickers, but looks to be a lot of people defending the guy who shot the cops.

it seems pretty clear from the video, they pulled the dude over for expired tags and decided to give him a hard time. no reason at all to demand he get out of the vehicle. he told them "give me my ticket and let me go" but they insisted on escalating. he was more than justified in my opinion, to have a reasonable fear they were doing to either kill him or do "serious bodily harm" which is the Oklahoma statutory requirement for lethal self-defense. though i would not be surprised for cops be some special exception. i hope at least someone on the jury panel has the courage to hang it.

  • joshieecs [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    he was in in for at least a year and a half, not sure if it was jail or prison. i did a rundown of his criminal record in another post: https://hexbear.net/post/26176

    • LaughingLion [any, any]
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      4 years ago

      A year and a half would most likely be a stay in prison. Jail is for shorter terms in the majority of states. Generally under 12 months.

      • joshieecs [he/him,any]
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        4 years ago

        it kinds depends on what the delays are getting a bed in the state prison. how long he in pre-conviction, a lot of other factors. i can say for the local jails, you would most likely just serve out 1.5 years in the jail. hardly worth a transfer to prison for someone who is going to be getting out a month or two after they finally get transferred. especially considering there is a month or so of (i forgot the exact term they call it) "grading" prisoners to see where they are sent long-term (like what pod, but also low security vs medium vs high, are the going to cause trouble, etc.)

        i know there was one guy who was in the local jail for over 4 years. my god, i don't know how he survived. county jails can be worse experiences than state prisons, though it's really all hit or miss depending on the jail and prison. there are virtually no standards of care.

        but yeah, the general rule is 1 year or less is served in jail, longer sentences in prison.