While the Mongols weren't known for their naval prowess, my understanding is they got rekt by a hurricane on the way to Japan. So bad luck mostly. The hurricane was called a "divine wind" or "Kami Kaze" by the Japanese for that reason.
The Koreans, on the other hand, actually fuck, and had the best naval and land artillery and the best naval gunnery in the world for at least a hundred years at one point.
Apparently there are major reasons to doubt that this was the only reason. Alot of modern historians from what I gather think the 'divine wind' thesis is too simple by itself. If you look at the primary sources in particular the mongol communications they had already decided to withdraw before a storm hit.
Japan was far away from mainland China, the Mongols were not seafarers (they had to use Korean and Chinese sailors and troops as the bulk of the force and the latter were not very happy or motivated to be forced to sail cross the sea to invade japan for their mongol overlords), it's several large islands with, by that time, stabilized military feudal military dictatorship under a proficient warrior class. They know the land. You don't. It's the 13th century so sailing is seriously dangerous and difficult. One of Kublai Khan's advisor cautioned him against sending further expeditions because of the record of how difficult it obviously was to actually take mainland Japan. It seems like the Mongols genuinely struggled and gave it up. It's fascinating how they steamrolled across Eurasia but struggled for understandable reasons when they faced naval and jungle warfare.
Bullshit, they were successfully taking over Japan, til a down-trodden samurai with daddy issues fucked them all up and sent them home. I played the game.
Weren’t the Mongols terrible boaters? They failed miserably when they attempted to take Japan
While the Mongols weren't known for their naval prowess, my understanding is they got rekt by a hurricane on the way to Japan. So bad luck mostly. The hurricane was called a "divine wind" or "Kami Kaze" by the Japanese for that reason.
it happened twice! crazy
British🤝Japanese. 90% of naval combat reputation from being a miserable land of constant thunderstorms.
The Koreans, on the other hand, actually fuck, and had the best naval and land artillery and the best naval gunnery in the world for at least a hundred years at one point.
130–330 japanese warships :wojak-nooo:
vs
13 korean turtle ships :gigachad-hd:
Apparently there are major reasons to doubt that this was the only reason. Alot of modern historians from what I gather think the 'divine wind' thesis is too simple by itself. If you look at the primary sources in particular the mongol communications they had already decided to withdraw before a storm hit.
Japan was far away from mainland China, the Mongols were not seafarers (they had to use Korean and Chinese sailors and troops as the bulk of the force and the latter were not very happy or motivated to be forced to sail cross the sea to invade japan for their mongol overlords), it's several large islands with, by that time, stabilized military feudal military dictatorship under a proficient warrior class. They know the land. You don't. It's the 13th century so sailing is seriously dangerous and difficult. One of Kublai Khan's advisor cautioned him against sending further expeditions because of the record of how difficult it obviously was to actually take mainland Japan. It seems like the Mongols genuinely struggled and gave it up. It's fascinating how they steamrolled across Eurasia but struggled for understandable reasons when they faced naval and jungle warfare.
thanks for the effortpost; didn't know any of that
Bullshit, they were successfully taking over Japan, til a down-trodden samurai with daddy issues fucked them all up and sent them home. I played the game.
deleted by creator
Ghost of Uncle Magic
Clearly your Jin never made it to the island of Iki.
deleted by creator
Makes sense, though it's for that very kind of reasoning I actually did play it. As a rule I never buy any game until it's on sale for under $15