Here in (country) everyone on the left hates surrogacy with a burning passion, since it involves rich people essentially buying babies and using the bodies of poor women for their own benefit. Even the right wing parties feel sliiightly uncomfortable discussing said topics (with the exception of the extremely liberal ones who also love to act all european and modern).

Even sitcoms such as Friends or Always Sunny in Philadelphia had plotlines where this happened and they didn't pointed out how some rich fuck was taking advantage of a poor person. (Well, it was a sitcom so the poor person was either an asshole or doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, but you get the picture: whitewashing surrogacy is also bad).

So yeah, what's the deal with that? No one points out how fucked up it is???

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Good bit but Marx said the opposite

    • Pog_De_Maistre [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Here in (country) everyone on the left hates surrogacy with a burning passion, since it involves rich people essentially buying babies and using the bodies of poor women for their own benefit. Even the right wing parties feel sliiightly uncomfortable discussing said topics (with the exception of the extremely liberal ones who also love to act all european and modern).

      Humanist Marx did but he later walked back on it

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        No I mean he didn't thought division of labour was good for the people, despite being necessary for a developed society. His dream was for me to clock in at the coal mine at 9 am, clock out at 11 am, be a carpenter for 3 hours and then be a fisherman for the rest of the day

        Or something like that,

        • Pog_De_Maistre [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          Well yes that's definitely present in the 1844 economic and philosophical manifesto but it's a position he gradually grew out of

          • RNAi [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Aw shit, that's it, I'm leaving communism for whatwver ideology that lets me be a coalmining sailor

            • Pog_De_Maistre [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              To be fair I think there's an arguement for "humanist marx" as opposed to or in compliment to his later work. As much as people deride fully automated luxury communism, it did open up a utopian imaginary that I think was helpful for making the left relavant to our generation