:sicko-laser:

He was stuck in California traffic on his way home and stressing over his taxes, which he still hasn't paid and which are kind of complicated. He's an international person who has a good job at [very rich and powerful tech company], they pay him partly in extremely valuable stock, and he is also becoming a landlord. (Yes, I know—he revealed this to me a couple of months ago and I told him it was a bad idea, but alas, nevertheless.)

All this being said, my man, who sits almost at the very top of the American pile—of the world pile—was asking me good-faith questions about communism. He asked if people would pay taxes under communism. I did my best to explain that under communism, there is no private property, and therefore nothing to tax, that communism is about the elimination of social constructs like race, class, gender, nationality, etc. (For some reason he's even having trouble finding a professional to do his taxes for him.) We only talked for about thirty minutes, and my kids managed to interrupt me TWICE during our discussion, but my friend also lamented the loss of community and friendship he's experienced since graduating college, and also how covid has devastated his relationships with his remaining friends. I didn't have time to talk about alienation, but I did discuss dialectical materialism. In the past, my friend has also complained about his company's return-to-work policies. I've mentioned unionization to him, but I have to say, as a fellow labor aristocrat, that fear (of losing the little we have) is certainly one of the prime characteristics of the labor aristocracy. Unionizing never even occurred to me back when I was a lib and had a swank job. No one mentioned it to us, not once, even when our employer's arbitrary behavior frustrated us. The best we could think of doing involved just getting another job.

I also made sure to mention that he was stuck in traffic because the California government is seemingly incapable of building fucking trains, that he has to do his taxes because the American government works for no one but billionaires (who have no trouble paying accountants to do their taxes for them). We aren't allowed to have good things in America because if you give poor people universal health care, for instance, that's not only going to bankrupt the poor health insurance companies, but what are people going to ask for next? Universal housing? Universal labor unions? What then?

My friend's class position as a labor aristocrat even among labor aristocrats means that it is unlikely that he will become a communist. And yet it's a sign of the times, isn't it, when someone whom the vast majority of people would consider successful, is nonetheless asking deep and serious questions about American society. There's a group of four of us who became friends in college, and my friend has remarked that it's funny how we have turned out:

  • My friend achieved his dream of working for [bazinga tech company];
  • I became a communist;
  • Our mutual friend, with whom I haven't spoken in years, became an NFT bro (his parents are hedge fund managers). Back in college he was alternately obsessed with Buddhism and business. Now he's just as passionate about capitalism as I am about communism, even though he's started several startups and none of them have come close to the success he dreamed of;
  • Another mutual friend is now trans and studying to become a therapist. This friend is sadly still a lib, however—a Berner who nonetheless believes that communism = concentration camps for all. This friend (who evidently uses she/her pronouns around others but has not asked me to do the same) comes from an "old family" with seemingly limitless wealth. I hung out at their house all the time in high school, and there was a framed portrait of Robert E. Lee on one of their walls.
  • NPa [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Back in college he was alternately obsessed with Buddhism and business.

    Business Buddhism: "If you meet the Buddha at the networking mixer, pitch him your start-up."

    • duderium [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      He was also involved in the Free Tibet "movement" and expressed dismay when virtually everyone involved switched to SJP (Students for Justice in Palestine), which then managed to get the college to divest from investments in Israel, even attracting the public condemnation of Alan Dershowitz. There were also a couple of Tibetan students on campus who, as far as I know, had nothing to do with the Free Tibet activists.

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      2 months ago

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    • grisbajskulor [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      There is not a single other country that is as fucking stupid as the US when it comes to this. Would love to be proven wrong.

    • Gucci_Minh [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Functioning countries just take it straight from your account/send you a bill. If they need to give you returns, they do a direct deposit or cheque. The IRS/CRA knows exactly how much you owe but wont tell you.

    • duderium [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      My friend and I talked about this and he agreed.

    • duderium [he/him]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I hear you. But as far as I know, all of us on hexbear were either libs or fascists once. If we can change, anyone can.

        • duderium [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I have few people to talk with in my everyday life, and this person actually came to me. I've spent years trying to convert people online, with no results that I know of. I posted about a language exchange app called HelloTalk on hexbear a few weeks ago, and have ended up using it to speak with people of all kinds of political persuasions who live all over the world. One Algerian friend I made there kept talking like a communist, but told me she knew nothing about communism. Once I explained it to her, she said: "okay, then I'm a communist." This is the only time I can think of when I (seemingly) legitimately converted someone, and she had already brought herself right to the edge more or less on her own.

            • duderium [he/him]
              hexagon
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              2 years ago

              Thanks for the link, I checked it out. I've thought about salting at the local grocery store a lot, but a few things have stopped me.

              • most workers there have stopped masking;
              • others have already probably tried to unionize that place without success;
              • the workers seem to consist of two groups: old timers who have accepted the shittiness and then newer people who are just passing through until they find a better job;
              • I have to homeschool my kids to keep them from getting sick at school.

              I'm working now on moving us all to China because I just don't think it's safe to raise kids here. Comrades can criticize me for this, but at the moment trying to do a revolution in the USA looks like suicide.

              • ZoomeristLeninist [they/them, she/her]M
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                2 years ago

                I’m working now on moving us all to China because I just don’t think it’s safe to raise kids here

                i really want to do this, im desperately trying to convince my gf but its gonna be hard bc we (presumably) have to leave family behind. but im trans so its better to live across the world from my family than end up dead. how did you learn Chinese?

                • duderium [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  2 years ago

                  I didn’t, but I’m working on it. There’s a language app I use called mango that works pretty well I think. I’ve also attempted to chat in Chinese with people on hellotalk a few times but my Chinese is so terrible I really thought I needed to learn more basics before subjecting them to it.

                • duderium [he/him]
                  hexagon
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                  2 years ago

                  Cuba seems almost impossible to get to and the situation there seems not good (because of the blockade and the pandemic). Vietnam is an option but some salaries in China are much better.

                • space_comrade [he/him]
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                  2 years ago

                  Why China specifically and not, say, Cuba or Vietnam?

                  Are there any job prospects for foreigners wanting to move to Cuba at all?

  • DoubleShot [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    my friend also lamented the loss of community and friendship he’s experienced since graduating college

    I think this is something so many people feel under capitalism. Let's pretend for the moment that under communism, people only really have the basics met (comfortably though). As much as people love their treats, I think if you could somehow let folks experience real community under communism for a month, virtually no one would want to go back to capitalism.

  • tripartitegraph [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    I had a friend start reading theory and asking me questions this week too! Now we're doing some union agitating 😈 :cat-vibing: :floppy-parrot: :mao-aggro-shining:

  • Dyno [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Converting or even just evangelising to people is an impossible art.
    I got into a heated argument with my cousin once at a family gathering because I'd brought up that I don't like Joe Rogan and the fact that he platforms right-wingers, and he retorted that it's a good thing because the right had always been marginalised by the media.
    Ironically, he softened when I revealed I was an anarcho-communist, presumably because there is less anticommunist propaganda to associate with anarchists, and because there is a gateway for on-the-fence libertarian types to have common ground.
    For months, however, he was a crypto-bro, and consistently refused to garner anything resembling a sensible assessment of what communism actually is, no matter what I said. Another argument involved me being critical of cryptocurrencies as pyramid schemes; his retort being that, as a communist, I should support this form of democratisation of money and that I must be a bad communist.

    In the end, he went to visit his sister in London and met her flatmates - somehow they ended up roping him into doing a political quiz as some kind of party game and he was forced to realise that his views and stances actually correlated with being left-wing.
    Since then, my position with others is to just state that I'm a communist and answer questions, but not educate them, because they're not going to parse it until they educate themselves. It needs to feel like it's their decision.