I don't see any good future for my current country(India) due to many different problems.

I don't have any motivation to continue living in this country and want to move to a developed country to have a decent Quality of Life at least. I am considering some countries in Europe because they align with what I want for a better QoL.

I am blacklisting war torn countries like the US. Also east Asia is lower priority because the work culture is as shit as India.

What country should I try to move to?

  • mar_k [he/him]
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    Like yeah, of course Germany isn’t racist - They successfully exterminated all the minorities they hated so there’s no one left to be racist against

    I mean I've been to a few parts of Germany and it was all racially diverse. Even in a super small town, it's not like you wouldn't see minorities everyday. I feel like Europe is also more religiously diverse in some ways, for example, 1 in 18 Germans are Muslim compared to 1 in 90 Americans

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      We might have different ideas of what "racially diverse" means. Germany is about 85% German. The US is about 60% white, 40% non-white. And that 60% "white" is a number of different white ethnic and cultural groups, which doesn't matter in some places and does matter in others.

      Re: Religion Maybe? Germany has 1-2 million more Muslims than the US, but very few Jews. We also have considerably more flavors of Christians than Europe, and a lot of them are really, really, frighteningly weird.

      Also, where you are matters a lot. Major cities on the coasts are far more ethnically diverse than the center of the country. Salt Lake City is 70% white, which I find suspiciously low. NYC is 30% white. Atlanta is about 50% white. Lincoln Nebraska is 88% white (lol). Los Angeles is 30% white, with 50% being Hispanic or Latino.

      America is a very diverse place in the cities where all the economy, culture, and politics happen. My impression of Germany is that it's mostly just full of Germans with a smattering of Turks. Like Berlin is apparently 88% white, in line with one of the whitest major metropolitan areas in the US, if you can call Lincoln "Major".

      Talking about the US as a single entity is often more misleading than not. California is the worlds sixth largest economy. Just California. New York State is the 10th. The US land mass is so big. Like I've gone on road trips from Minneapolis to Philadelphia, which is about the same as jumping in to a car in Berlin and driving to Minsk. And in the other direction, say, Minneapolis to LA, which is about 500mi further than driving from Paris to Moscow. There are a lot of very weird people along that 2,000 mi route.

      • mar_k [he/him]
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        My impression of Germany is that it’s mostly just full of Germans with a smattering of Turks. Like Berlin is apparently 88% white

        I think you're looking at Berlin, Connecticut lol, the first thing that shows up when you google it

        Germany doesn't have any official statistics on race. It's actually illegal to collect that there. But if you've been to Berlin there's no way could think it's 90% white, it's probably around 50-60% (which is more diverse than most of Germany of course)

        Germany is about 85% German

        I think that statistic is saying 85% of Germans are German born rather than talking about ethnicity. Like, ~15% of people in Germany are foreign born immigrants at the moment. That's the same number for America actually. 23% of Germany's population are immigrants or children of immigrants, so there's no way 85% of Germany is ethnically German.

        Also, where you are matters a lot. Major cities on the coasts are far more ethnically diverse than the center of the country.

        The same applies to European countries as well. European countries are smaller but pretty densely populated: take a 40 min car ride within Germany, France, wherever, and you can go from a super diverse area to a very white one. I am American btw.

        Religion Maybe? Germany has 1-2 million more Muslims than the US, but very few Jews

        Yeah that's why I said "in some ways," Islam is way more prevalent in Germany (5.5% vs 1.1%) and most of Europe but Judaism definitely isn't (0.15% vs 1.7%)

        I'm not at all disagreeing the US is largely far more diverse, I'm just saying Germany has a good degree of diversity as well, and if you've ever been there there's no way you would say it's virtually absent of diversity aside from Turks. Implying "Germany isn't racist because not many of them interact with people of color on a daily basis" just isn't true, one because Germany does have racism problems (although probably better than most parts of Europe), two because poc are still everywhere

        Was Germany overwhelmingly ethnically German for a few decades post-WWII? Definitely, diversity is a relatively new thing to Europe in general, especially with genocides of the past. But that's been changing pretty fast in the past few decades, especially since the early 2000's, so I don't think it's fair to say they're extremely white today. Hell the US was 87% white in 1980, 80% white in 1990, 75% in 2000, etc., and honestly that's probably where a lot of European countries are at the moment

        Seriously, if you've ever been to Germany there's no way you'd be talking about it like it's virtually an ethnostate. On the other hand, a lot of Eastern European countries are basically ethnostates, and they tend to be far more ultranationalist and xenophobic than more diverse European countries. That's because diversity and exposure to minorities usually breeds tolerance, not the opposite. Poland and Hungary and modern sundown towns in the US are incredibly racist because people there don't see and interact with poc on a daily basis, so I also don't get the assumption that Germany theoretically not being racist would be due to it theoretically being incredibly white