Sike, I still like it

    • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Perspective: Nobody gave a shit whether Louis Armstrong or the Andrews Sisters wrote their own material. Expecting audiences to value performers who also were songwriters was a boomer phenomenon, starting mid 1960s-ish. That wasn't very long ago, and the technology of audio recording wasn't around for very long before that. But royalties are paid to songwriters according to a legal framework designed for player piano reels, predating all that even.

      • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        We shouldn't shame or look down upon in any way those who perform songs written by others, but trying to diminish the value in an artist composing their own work as "boomer" is fucking banal

        • wild_dog [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          seriously. it's also ahistorical because there were always pockets of people complaining about this. Punks did it in the 70s/80s. 60s garage rockers did it. I've seen DJs hate on people who don't make their own remixes. You can think it's annoying to complain about, but writing it off as boomerism is so lazy.

        • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          So Garth Brooks is a creature of the Nashville country music industry. The Nashville machine has not followed the trend of promoting songwriting bands to anywhere near the same extend as the LA record labels have. Criticizing a country music entertainer for not writing his own songs is like criticizing a magpie for having white stripes. There is indeed great value in songwriting bands. To the artist (or whoever has contracted the rights to the artist's recordings), it means double the royalties. To the record companies it helps diminish the power of ASCAP, which used to function much more like a proper union than it does today. The expectation that a band should write its own songs was first cultivated in the 60s in an audience of baby boomers, using baby boomer bands. It's about as boomer as bell bottom jeans. That doesn't mean it's in any way bad for a band to write its own songs, but division of labor between songwriters and entertainers was the norm before that, and continues to be in many musical traditions.

      • wild_dog [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Perspective: Nobody gave a shit whether Louis Armstrong or the Andrews Sisters wrote their own material.

        perspective: the first recorded Jazz album in history was a white band stealing music from Black jazz bands so maybe people should have cared about this stuff earlier.

        • wrecker_vs_dracula [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          ...unless you consider the ~1915 Jelly Roll Morton piano rolls to be the first jazz recordings. But that's semantics. As jazz became a popular music, the trend of performing popular songs in a jazz style became very common for working bands.

          • wild_dog [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            well obviously playing standards has been a big part of jazz (and lots of other styles of music) but i'm just saying there's legitimate non-boomer circumstances in which it makes sense to care about people becoming popular playing music they didn't write.

            • RNAi [he/him]
              hexagon
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              1 year ago

              Yeah but one thing is sone craker stealing culture and other is someonw paying someone else to write them a good song