• WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    The theocratic coup you described was also the introduction of the political notion of fundamental human dignity regardless of position in the class hierarchy into English public

    Hard disagree here considering the suppression of the levellers and diggers, and the confiscation of land from Catholics carried out by the Puritans.

    the introduction of the right to not have the police cut body parts off of you.

    Except if you're Scottish or Irish.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      the levelers were literally one of the factions in the parlimentarian army and were themselves puritans.

      Also it is worth noting that the wars with Ireland and Scotland that followed were in no way breaks from the continual level of violence on those fronts before or after and that those wars were results of the Irish and Scots attempting to restore the Stuarts to power in England. The very same Charles the 2nd who went on to grant a charter to the transatlantic slave trade

      • WittyProfileName2 [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        They fought with the parliamentarians yes, but then under Cromwell their demands were ignored and those that continued to aggravate for them were either imprisoned or executed.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          And napoleon brought back slavery and declared himself emperor yet people still glorify the french revolution. It all came to nothing and we had the Stuarts back soon enough continuing their bloodyminded repression but it was also one of the few times in English history where the human dignity of the everyday person came even slightly into the forefront of political sphere as a legitimate and worthwhile thing

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              yeah they both were but there were other social factors going on in both revolutions as well as the conflict between aristocrat and bourgeoise

            • Dolores [love/loves]
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              1 year ago

              that is not a gotcha, marx considered the bourgeois revolutions a necessary and progressive step in historical development