Ban these fucking things or at least ban anyone under 25 from using them
These little assholes zoom around at light speed colliding into grandmas
Not sure what it is about electric scooters but people on them are way more reckless and less mindful than cyclists
half this thread sounds carbrained as fuck. folks if you arrive at the same position as the libs (excluding the tech bros on this one) maybe reconsider how you got there. These things aren't insanely dangerous or a menace to society fundamentally, it's just we've arrived at the intersection of "we can under no circumstances regulate any company in any capacity whatsoever" and "everything not a car gets to duke it out in the gutter" and turns out that shit don't work
I guess I should mention I live in a place with pretty great public transit and biking infrastructure. I also recognise the obvious benefits electric scooters and other EVs have for people with disabilities or mobility issues.
They can just be a menace in the hands of annoying, mostly young dipshits with no thought for other people around them
at which point the problem is not the scooters, is it? We just gotta ban
rock musicdndvideo games(YMMV on this site, admittedly) e scooters so the youth stop misbehaving doesn't sound like a great concept.i wouldn't even say it's young people. i've see drunk boomers being stupid on these things pretty often.
there can't be guard rails against thoughtlessness, such people use guard rails to slide down the stairs
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None of the problems here are inherent to e-scooters, though, that's my thing. The current model is bad, absolutely and I agree, but the fact that they get tossed and replaced is a function of how they're managed, it's not like the technology in there is like inherently unstable. It's a scooter and an e-motor, that's pretty tried and true on all fronts.
I fucking detest the fact that takeout and such is often given in plastic single use containers when I'd be very happy to bring them some tupperware to put my slop in but that means I want a better take out world, not banning that shit.
And I fucking hate E-Scooters but that's me being a raging RETVRN guy on this issue specifically, just use a bicycle like a normal person (excluding people with mobility issues)
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Also very "these dang kids with their damn skateboards" old man yelling at the cloud vibe.
I mean if you wanna regulate them or fix them somehow for the better then good but lots of "ban it" types in here. Reminds me of the people who were unironically happy about the US gov wanting to ban TikTok just cuz they were personally out of touch.
The genie is out of the bottle. The scooteres are here and I don't see them going anywhere, especially since younger people like them. Better to deal with it in a healthy, constructive way than to be boomer-brained about it.
Ban Tiktok.
If they're banned how can we harvest them for cheap batteries and other useful resources?
Please don't throw them in the river, though. The dumpster works just fine.
Agree. I was pretty annoyed when dozens of these things were in the middle of the sidewalk, and broken ones were lying in ditches and stuff, but this was incidental business insanity which has mostly passed now around here. Fundamentally (and in practice here where I am today), they're not actually more in the way of pedestrians than bikes. They legislated these things around here to be quasi-bikes. The only actual annoying thing about them sharing space with bikes is that they have high off-the-line acceleration but lowish top-speed, which means they tend to not flow great with bike traffic, but it's not that big of a problem really.
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Cities and road design/rules/regulations definitely need to be completely reconstructed. It's awful how everything gets lumped to either being a car equivalent or a bike equivalent with almost no accommodations for bikes, and then how fucking awful it is to have to interact with the government for license testing, etc. on top of it.
Edit: So you have reasons to say scooters and equivalents show be treated more seriously. But to incentivize people using them others want them less government regulated than cars to get away from auto-centrism. Just shitty situation all around.
You're missing a whole angle here were companies are unilaterally, often illegally, enclosing one of the tiny amount of public space that still exists. They just air-dropped these things on public sidewalks in cities all over the world where they act as obstructions to basically anyone who needs any kind of mobility aid of any kind. And just claiming the use of public space for a private enterprise is bad all on it's own.
Do your part. Drag scooters down to the scrapper and tell them they were abandoned on your property.
Yes, and they have been doing this for decades with all kinds of things from advertising (like sandwich-boards), legally and illegaly parked business vehicles and a lot of other stuff.
If suddenly you find this detestable but somehow only in the context of e-scooters it doesn't exactly come across as a genuine concern.
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