Holy shit folx I am twisting myself into a pretzel trying to figure out what the fuck this person is even beginning to try to think
It's also important to remember that he was adamant that he himself was not a marxist. He was aware of the flaws in his ideology, he was simply correctly identifying flaws with the current system at his time and proposing solutions, solutions which he himself was willing to admit didn't work. Something no Marxist today will ever admit to.
He wasn't adamant about not being a Marxist, he said it exactly one time and it was about a specific thing the French Workers' Party was doing. I really don't like how that one phrase has been twisted so much.
The French Workers' Party were what we'd call ultra-leftists now. They refused to seriously attempt reform or have electoral gains. Marx helped them write a list of short term goals he thought were achievable through reformist, electoral means, and they were good policies. Things like reduction of the workday to 8 hours and a ban on child labor. The party however thought the platform was only useful in swaying the working class to instigate revolution, and the policies were impossible to implement otherwise.
So Marx got sick of these people for refusing to at least try to do something, and the phrase was more like "If these people are Marxists, then I'm not one." And he said this in a private letter to Engels. It wasn't something he even said publicly.
the rest of what that libertarian is saying just sounds like he heard the "i'm not a marxist" quote and then made up what he thought he meant in his head. "solutions which he himself was willing to admit didn't work." what the hell does that even mean? Marx sitting down and saying "Here's some impossible nonsense I'm writing for no reason lol"
Holy shit folx I am twisting myself into a pretzel trying to figure out what the fuck this person is even beginning to try to think
Marx, sitting at his couch: I'm gonna spend my life.coming up with bad ideas that I know won't work , :very-intelligent:
He wasn't adamant about not being a Marxist, he said it exactly one time and it was about a specific thing the French Workers' Party was doing. I really don't like how that one phrase has been twisted so much.
The French Workers' Party were what we'd call ultra-leftists now. They refused to seriously attempt reform or have electoral gains. Marx helped them write a list of short term goals he thought were achievable through reformist, electoral means, and they were good policies. Things like reduction of the workday to 8 hours and a ban on child labor. The party however thought the platform was only useful in swaying the working class to instigate revolution, and the policies were impossible to implement otherwise.
So Marx got sick of these people for refusing to at least try to do something, and the phrase was more like "If these people are Marxists, then I'm not one." And he said this in a private letter to Engels. It wasn't something he even said publicly.
the rest of what that libertarian is saying just sounds like he heard the "i'm not a marxist" quote and then made up what he thought he meant in his head. "solutions which he himself was willing to admit didn't work." what the hell does that even mean? Marx sitting down and saying "Here's some impossible nonsense I'm writing for no reason lol"