People tended not to move around very much before cars. Like, yeah any particular person could end up anywhere, there were trade networks. However on the level of populations people didn't move about much. So it would be weird to see that the people had changed en mass. I can see rascist people wanting to divorce Egypt from "Africa" so that'd be a drive to look for excuses. Also, ancient Egypt was old when Rome was founded, so we do need to define what period we are talking about a little better.
That's what I mean we need to be carful with terms. Cause the various types of pre German people moved around pre-germany. Pick a random subsistance farmer off the map and their people have likely been there through several different waves of pre-German scootin about.
Proto-IndoEuropeans apparently went all the way to the Amur River before settling near the Caspian Sea. And turkic peoples today can be found in the far eastern parts of the Russian Arctic.
I am under the impression that even though those were significant migrations, most the poor people just kinda stayed put under new management and their grandkids would change religion. There are of course exceptions but I thought DNA evidence was in on this one.
No, ancient tribal migrations involved the whole tribe, from the royal family to the slaves. Humans used to all be nomadic before the advent of cities after the Neolithic revolution. Even then, tribes and peoples still migrated to greener pastures when the local environment was depleted or they were driven out by other people moving into their area.
The concept of the poor people staying in place while the lord changed is a feudal concept, when serfs were bound to their land and forbidden from leaving. This was not the case in ancient times.
People tended not to move around very much before cars. Like, yeah any particular person could end up anywhere, there were trade networks. However on the level of populations people didn't move about much. So it would be weird to see that the people had changed en mass. I can see rascist people wanting to divorce Egypt from "Africa" so that'd be a drive to look for excuses. Also, ancient Egypt was old when Rome was founded, so we do need to define what period we are talking about a little better.
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That's what I mean we need to be carful with terms. Cause the various types of pre German people moved around pre-germany. Pick a random subsistance farmer off the map and their people have likely been there through several different waves of pre-German scootin about.
Anglo-Saxon migration into Britain
The Migration Age in general (German tribes migrating into Roman lands en masse)
The deportation of the Ionian Greeks into central Asia
The Han settling of Manchuria at the behest of the Qing emperor
Mongol invasions
Fuck it, the migration of Homo Sapiens out of Africa to the whole world
Proto-IndoEuropeans apparently went all the way to the Amur River before settling near the Caspian Sea. And turkic peoples today can be found in the far eastern parts of the Russian Arctic.
I am under the impression that even though those were significant migrations, most the poor people just kinda stayed put under new management and their grandkids would change religion. There are of course exceptions but I thought DNA evidence was in on this one.
No, ancient tribal migrations involved the whole tribe, from the royal family to the slaves. Humans used to all be nomadic before the advent of cities after the Neolithic revolution. Even then, tribes and peoples still migrated to greener pastures when the local environment was depleted or they were driven out by other people moving into their area.
The concept of the poor people staying in place while the lord changed is a feudal concept, when serfs were bound to their land and forbidden from leaving. This was not the case in ancient times.