But in all seriousness, anyone else totally turned off/worried by the massive turn towards streaming music rather than owning physical media or even mp3s?
it's actually pretty easy: if you have an old computer or so lying around, you can throw Yunohost on it. They have excellent documentation, which guides you through some of the concepts you need to know for self-hosting, through nitty-gritty of setting up your own Yunohost box, including set up and port-forwarding on your router and they also provide a users guide for you and anyone else who might use your personal cloud. They even give you free subdomains!
It honestly took me months to get a proxmox server up and running, you kinda gotta mix and match to figure things out for your hardware. TeddyKila suggested r/selfhosted to get started, they've been a great resource for me to. Some other posters on the tech instance here have been invaluable for trouble shooting too. I would suggest perusing YouTube for it to pick up a lot of the general knowledge.
Also, refurbished enterprise hard drives on eBay are a steal! I have 2x 16tb drives on a mirror backup (so only 14tb, but if one fails I don't lose everything) and they were like $140 ish each.
I have my old gaming pc parts still lying around would that be enough to get started on a small server? I’ll check out the resources both you guys posted.
Yep! I have an old work station computer that I built for a job years ago that I just transplanted into a cheep server rack case. Old hard drives from laptops as the main OS drives, a cheap networking card and switches. As the old laptop drives go out I'll just replace them with an SSD, it's a mirror array, so it's easy for one to go down and I just drop the new one in and have it all copy over.
An old Core i3 or Ryzen 3, 4+ gb of RAM, throw a cheap 3.5" HDD in it and install your OS. Proxmox is pretty preferred in the hobbyist scene, takes some technical skill but there's a lot of help out there for free on different forums. Feel free to DM me with questions if you like too! I'm not super reliable, but I'll try.
Thanks for all the help, atm I don’t have any money but I start a new job soon so I should get some money to buy the stuff I need. I need a new hobby anyways since my old one is killing me.
I wish, extreme inactivity and heavy smoking. I’ve had pretty bad chest pain for like three weeks now, im starting a new job in a couple of weeks so I’ll be insured and I can go to a doctor.
Sorry to hear that, I hope you get the care that you need soon! But honestly, building a computer to serve up TV shows probably isn't the best for working on that... Not trying to tell you how to live your life, but maybe find a more active hobby?
It’s fine, the job I’ll be getting will be quite physical and I’m doing a hour of exercise most days. It’s something I’d be saving for the winter months anyways.
MP3s were the height of music in the sense that you could have as much music as you wanted, and you owned it. Downside is supposedly the quality of the audio isn’t as good as physical (idk I’m not an audiophile but that’s what they say) point is MP3s were goated and my only regret in life is I didn’t steal more music (there will never be enough music to steal)
The 128kbps mp3s of the kazaa/ipod era aren't as good as physical CDs, but the 320kbps mp3s that are common today are indistinguishable from CD or any other higher-quality recording.
i had a 128mb mp3 ewaste device.. could put maybe 10 - 13 songs on it at a time... man i used the hell out of that thing and burned through so many AAA batteries
I still collect records, and a lotta people I know collect them and tapes as well. I don't listen to much mainstream music so I can find a LOT of what I listen to in vinyl format. Even then I know a lot of pop artists started releasing music on it as well. Why does streaming worry you?
I mean, ignoring how ecologically wasteful it is, just look at the all the issues we're having with other digital content; Books and games being removed from markets and people's libraries, popularity dictated by the controlling companies elevating their preferred content, old games lost to time because companies keep attacking emulators. If you don't have your own copy of something that you can control, whether physical or digital, you don't own it.
is streaming really that much worse on that? there's centralized servers that cost a lot but millions are using the same one, as opposed to millions of players and media that had to be manufactured and shipped. like i don't have any data either way i can just see difficultly in calculating and coming to a discrete answer.
I mean, it doesn't have to be worse to be bad. I've seen multiple studies that put streaming as having less of a carbon footprint than physical media, but then we use it more because it's so plentiful. I see it as the difference between ice cars vs electric. Capitalism isn't gonna let us find the efficient, eco-friendly alternative to cars or anything else because they're keeping us captive in their framework of discourse.
Ah I see yeah, that totally makes sense. Speaking of everything turning into a rental or subscription, reminds me of the fact that you have to pay a fucking subscription for car sear warmers in some luxury cars now, pure insanity. And also I guess there's the fact that any of that stuff stored digitally can just disappear in a snap. Like decades of cultural history, important or not. Kinda wild
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But in all seriousness, anyone else totally turned off/worried by the massive turn towards streaming music rather than owning physical media or even mp3s?
No, not really. My media streams from my home server, it takes up way less space!
Do you have any good suggestions for guides or places to read up about setting up a home server?
/r/selfhosted shoyld have decent guides
it's actually pretty easy: if you have an old computer or so lying around, you can throw Yunohost on it. They have excellent documentation, which guides you through some of the concepts you need to know for self-hosting, through nitty-gritty of setting up your own Yunohost box, including set up and port-forwarding on your router and they also provide a users guide for you and anyone else who might use your personal cloud. They even give you free subdomains!
never heard of yunohost before, that's pretty awesome
It honestly took me months to get a proxmox server up and running, you kinda gotta mix and match to figure things out for your hardware. TeddyKila suggested r/selfhosted to get started, they've been a great resource for me to. Some other posters on the tech instance here have been invaluable for trouble shooting too. I would suggest perusing YouTube for it to pick up a lot of the general knowledge.
Also, refurbished enterprise hard drives on eBay are a steal! I have 2x 16tb drives on a mirror backup (so only 14tb, but if one fails I don't lose everything) and they were like $140 ish each.
I have my old gaming pc parts still lying around would that be enough to get started on a small server? I’ll check out the resources both you guys posted.
Yep! I have an old work station computer that I built for a job years ago that I just transplanted into a cheep server rack case. Old hard drives from laptops as the main OS drives, a cheap networking card and switches. As the old laptop drives go out I'll just replace them with an SSD, it's a mirror array, so it's easy for one to go down and I just drop the new one in and have it all copy over.
An old Core i3 or Ryzen 3, 4+ gb of RAM, throw a cheap 3.5" HDD in it and install your OS. Proxmox is pretty preferred in the hobbyist scene, takes some technical skill but there's a lot of help out there for free on different forums. Feel free to DM me with questions if you like too! I'm not super reliable, but I'll try.
Thanks for all the help, atm I don’t have any money but I start a new job soon so I should get some money to buy the stuff I need. I need a new hobby anyways since my old one is killing me.
Skateboarding over age 25?
I wish, extreme inactivity and heavy smoking. I’ve had pretty bad chest pain for like three weeks now, im starting a new job in a couple of weeks so I’ll be insured and I can go to a doctor.
Sorry to hear that, I hope you get the care that you need soon! But honestly, building a computer to serve up TV shows probably isn't the best for working on that... Not trying to tell you how to live your life, but maybe find a more active hobby?
It’s fine, the job I’ll be getting will be quite physical and I’m doing a hour of exercise most days. It’s something I’d be saving for the winter months anyways.
Good to hear!
MP3s were the height of music in the sense that you could have as much music as you wanted, and you owned it. Downside is supposedly the quality of the audio isn’t as good as physical (idk I’m not an audiophile but that’s what they say) point is MP3s were goated and my only regret in life is I didn’t steal more music (there will never be enough music to steal)
The 128kbps mp3s of the kazaa/ipod era aren't as good as physical CDs, but the 320kbps mp3s that are common today are indistinguishable from CD or any other higher-quality recording.
Chat is this true?
128kbps mp3s on my ewaste nugget good times good times. 2000s era music devices were peak ewaste that put modern mobile phones to shame
i had a 128mb mp3 ewaste device.. could put maybe 10 - 13 songs on it at a time... man i used the hell out of that thing and burned through so many AAA batteries
Eh I just pirated and burned onto CDs, can still do that if I want but there’s really no point
I still collect records, and a lotta people I know collect them and tapes as well. I don't listen to much mainstream music so I can find a LOT of what I listen to in vinyl format. Even then I know a lot of pop artists started releasing music on it as well. Why does streaming worry you?
I mean, ignoring how ecologically wasteful it is, just look at the all the issues we're having with other digital content; Books and games being removed from markets and people's libraries, popularity dictated by the controlling companies elevating their preferred content, old games lost to time because companies keep attacking emulators. If you don't have your own copy of something that you can control, whether physical or digital, you don't own it.
is streaming really that much worse on that? there's centralized servers that cost a lot but millions are using the same one, as opposed to millions of players and media that had to be manufactured and shipped. like i don't have any data either way i can just see difficultly in calculating and coming to a discrete answer.
I mean, it doesn't have to be worse to be bad. I've seen multiple studies that put streaming as having less of a carbon footprint than physical media, but then we use it more because it's so plentiful. I see it as the difference between ice cars vs electric. Capitalism isn't gonna let us find the efficient, eco-friendly alternative to cars or anything else because they're keeping us captive in their framework of discourse.
at least improvements in efficiency when they are allowed to happen are easier to implement in centralized systems
Not if it costs money to implement those improvements.
US telecom infrastructure:
Ah I see yeah, that totally makes sense. Speaking of everything turning into a rental or subscription, reminds me of the fact that you have to pay a fucking subscription for car sear warmers in some luxury cars now, pure insanity. And also I guess there's the fact that any of that stuff stored digitally can just disappear in a snap. Like decades of cultural history, important or not. Kinda wild
I've never owned any audio cds, and only a couple movie dvds from a clearance bin. If I want something on physical media I burn it myself.
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