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  • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Over the past few days I have seen a lot of takes that make me want to do vigilante justice. Not the murdering homeless people kind.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      I saw a tweet that pointed out something I entirely missed. Vigilantes typically go after people who committed crimes whether or not the law says the actions were crimes. I think there's been a decided shift in the media's portrayal of attacks on the homeless. The media uses words like "vigilante" for murders like this.

      The Death Wish fantasy murder used to be done to remove the criminals from the streets. But the 2023 version of the fantasy is simply murdering the homeless because you feel like it.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        2 years ago

        i think that gives way too much credit to the stated aims of the 80s vigilante fantasy. compare the real case of Bernie Goetz, who used an illegal firearm to murder 4 black men who were supposedly robbing him on the New York subway. He was a documented racist, but he became a folk hero, because he did what thousands of middle class whites felt they could not: he cleaned up the social refuse

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I lived in NYC when Goetz committed those murders. A lot of people were disgusted and revolted by him. Both locally and nationally.

          I could be wrong. It's impossible to know. I was a different person. I was a liberal. And it's not only is it a different era in time. Technology has changed everything. The net was a non-entity so everyone's world - including my own - was smaller.

          Like anybody unaware - I consumed a lot of propaganda then without knowing it. My hunch is that if the net and social media had existed then - people who supported Goetz would be ridiculed and humiliated. Of course some Death Wish fantasists were liberals. But I doubt they'd voice those opinions in public.

          There's been a huge lurch to the right in the decades since. Going more and more mask off has become more acceptable. I won't be surprised if some right-wing turd on the NYT staff (or guest columnist) writes a not-so-veiled op-ed with the gist being "people have a right to feel safe in public" and the text basically intimates that the death of a homeless person isn't that big a deal.

          Also - if the murderer is smart - he'll set up a Gofundme and let right-wing media outlets know about. I bet he could easily raise a 100,000 (if not more) within the next few weeks.

          Giving money and aid to murderer was wholly unacceptable in the 1980s. But it sure okay now to a huge percentage of Americans.

          • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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            2 years ago

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            seriously, what is it with you guys and jews? it's like a speech impediment, you have to mention them in every sentence.