You can hate Nietzsche and his relentless idealism, but he did not directly lead to Nazi ideology, but more directly towards our current relentlessly individualist reality. Nazism, even in its privatized capitalist mode of production, still ultimately identified the idea of the uber-mensch as embodied by the historical volk and the volkgiest, not as the individual who escapes time or Schopenhauer's 'beast'.
Nazism (not fascism in general) is full of this full on historical mystification, and it is completely nessecery for the establishment of shared national 'folklore' that the lumpen can gather around, even though historically common people hated the direct competition of their neighbors more than far off nations. All of which is 'collectivist' ideology that Nietzsche would hate and say that has to be overcome by an individual to overcome the time and place that they are.
If anything, Hegel himself is far more responsible for Nazi ideology, as German ideology was seen as denied it's 'historical moment' in WWI.
Nazism is not nihilism, neither is Nietzsche's uber-mensch, which overcomes nihilism, which to him is caused by one's realization of existence within time and history (eternal recurrence). However, he was of the opinion that humanity collectively cannot overcome these things, only the individual can 'will himself to power'.
Which is nonsense idealism, individuals are empowered by historical context.
Agreed, and to some degree she succeeded! Hitler and Goebbels absolutely cribbed the idea of an uber-mensch race, a race of men that can, do and will succeed outside of their time and place, from Nietzsche. However, because of Hitler's and Nazi ideology overall's obsession with the past, German idealism, and German nationalism, it is ultimately a radical departure from Nietzsche, whose belief was that the uber-mensch doesn't need to concern himself with the past because by his very nature he will transcend it, and unlike Hegel's 'Miverna's owl of wisdom at twilight' he will be aware of that ascension at it is happening because he has willed it to be. Not a race of men who have and did will themselves to be, but somehow it didn't work?
This should sound very familiar to anybody who is familiar with libertarianism. However, we, as materialists, understand that Nietzsche was correct that history occurs in repeating cycles and the nihilism that occurs from that realization, but we believe that we either overcome it collectively by altering the fundamental relationship to the means of production, or not at all. Which is clearly shown in libertarians falling for the same grifts again and again.
You can hate Nietzsche and his relentless idealism, but he did not directly lead to Nazi ideology, but more directly towards our current relentlessly individualist reality. Nazism, even in its privatized capitalist mode of production, still ultimately identified the idea of the uber-mensch as embodied by the historical volk and the volkgiest, not as the individual who escapes time or Schopenhauer's 'beast'.
Nazism (not fascism in general) is full of this full on historical mystification, and it is completely nessecery for the establishment of shared national 'folklore' that the lumpen can gather around, even though historically common people hated the direct competition of their neighbors more than far off nations. All of which is 'collectivist' ideology that Nietzsche would hate and say that has to be overcome by an individual to overcome the time and place that they are.
If anything, Hegel himself is far more responsible for Nazi ideology, as German ideology was seen as denied it's 'historical moment' in WWI.
If that's true, then why do Nietzsche and Nazi sound so similar? Checkmate.
In German (The language Nietzsche spoke) they don't sound the same. Double Checkmate
Nietzsche said that nihilism was a bad thing and would lead to mass suffering.
Nazism is not nihilism, neither is Nietzsche's uber-mensch, which overcomes nihilism, which to him is caused by one's realization of existence within time and history (eternal recurrence). However, he was of the opinion that humanity collectively cannot overcome these things, only the individual can 'will himself to power'.
Which is nonsense idealism, individuals are empowered by historical context.
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Agreed, and to some degree she succeeded! Hitler and Goebbels absolutely cribbed the idea of an uber-mensch race, a race of men that can, do and will succeed outside of their time and place, from Nietzsche. However, because of Hitler's and Nazi ideology overall's obsession with the past, German idealism, and German nationalism, it is ultimately a radical departure from Nietzsche, whose belief was that the uber-mensch doesn't need to concern himself with the past because by his very nature he will transcend it, and unlike Hegel's 'Miverna's owl of wisdom at twilight' he will be aware of that ascension at it is happening because he has willed it to be. Not a race of men who have and did will themselves to be, but somehow it didn't work?
This should sound very familiar to anybody who is familiar with libertarianism. However, we, as materialists, understand that Nietzsche was correct that history occurs in repeating cycles and the nihilism that occurs from that realization, but we believe that we either overcome it collectively by altering the fundamental relationship to the means of production, or not at all. Which is clearly shown in libertarians falling for the same grifts again and again.