• CommunistBear [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I think I was already mostly deradicalized by this point, but the Ukraine war definitely made me appreciate the neoliberal perspective more. At one point I was big into the whole “US is an imperialist project, the MIC gins up conflicts for profit, the west should make way for a multipolar world” viewpoint. The war made it pretty clear that the national security sector isn’t just for kicks—there really are cruel revanchist regimes out there that will take advantage if given the opportunity.

    Completes loses the plot that the MIC ginning up conflict for profit is how the fucking war started in the first place. Istg these are the dumbest motherfuckers in existence

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      How exactly did that "cruel revanchist regime" come to power anyway?

      Through an aggressive foreign and economic policy by the United States with the intent of crushing it and make life as difficult as possible for the socialist movement that led to reformists seeking to befriend the US by conceding instead coming to power?

      Through a gang of extremely corrupt former bureaucrats, noveau riche and outright criminals that came to power and tanked the quality of life through the very market reforms that were supposed to be amazing for the population?

      Through the sometimes openly fraudulent support from the United States of this ruling class, because beware if the commies come back to power?

      Through the open and covert support of forces hostile to even the new Russian government in areas like what used to be Yugoslavia, Central Asia, Eastern Europe, etc.?

      Through engaging in sphere of influence squabbles with the Russian Federation in countries like Georgia or Ukraine, where the democracy nobody takes seriously consists of the traditionalist Communist Party [until it gets banned], a traditionalist conservative party led by the sketchiest bourgeoisie you'll ever see who like Russia and a liberal conservative party led by the sketchiest bourgeoisie you'll ever see who like America as millions of people leave to the West or Russia to actually improve their quality of life compared to the level of 1978?

      Through open hostility and patronizing attitudes even in times where it tried to deescalate?

      Who cares, not like neoliberals want to look beyond the here and now for any issue, be it looking at the past or into the future.

      • CommunistBear [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Seriously, it's all just a matrioshka of MIC meddling going back further and further. The complete disregard for how everything became the way it is frustrates me immensely

        • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          The MIC cheered on by certain factions among the regular Bourgeoisie or their allies (say the original gusanos, who were very wealthy and wish to RETRVN to that opulence, even if it's the third generation and they have never been outside of Florida), and buttered by a healthy dose of liberal pure ideology.

          The same, hilariously enough, applies to the Russian Federation as well. Except there the ideology is nationalism.

          And then you get the people cheering you on, while you and large parts of the population spout the ideology, they prepare contracts to grab newly privatized land in Zhytomir/become owner of the clothes factory in Melitopol as your side's army chased the old owner away. War profiteering does not necessarily have to be Lockheed Martin gaining record profits, though of course it also is that.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Remember the month leading up to Russia invading when the entire American foreign policy apparatus was saying "we double dog dare Putin to do something"? Me neither :blob-no-thoughts: