https://newrepublic.com/post/172744/elon-musk-goes-full-antisemite-george-soros-dumps-tesla-shares

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    from what I remember he was like 12 at the time and pressed into some sort of unsavory service by the nazis

    • Fuckass
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      1 year ago

      Removed by mod

        • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          from wikipedia:

          Soros later described this time to writer Michael Lewis: "The Jewish Council asked the little kids to hand out the deportation notices. I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper ... I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, 'You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported'. I'm not sure to what extent he knew they were going to be gassed. I did what my father said."

          also from wikipedia:

          Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an official of the collaborationist Hungarian government's Ministry of Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding.

          Kaufman, Michael T. (2002). Soros: The Life and Times of a Messianic Billionaire. Knopf. pp. 32–33. ISBN 9780375405853.

            • kristina [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              also tbh a kid being complicit in nazi crimes is hardly the fault of the child even if it were the case somewhere.

              • SoyViking [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I find it very hard to sit in my nice comfy chair and judge Jews for doing what they felt they had to do to survive the Holocaust, especially if they were children. Soros is a monster but not because of this, not at all.

            • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              I’m not reading a bunch of books on soros to figure this out, but the Jewish council was set up by the nazis to act as a Vichy style governing body and the context I picked up from that snippet was that the “deportation papers” were basically the paperwork that the Nazis used to pick up people for concentration camps.

              Someone asked for a source for this claim that I’ve honestly heard since I was aware of the existence of the man and I spent less than sixty seconds chasing it down. Leave me out of whatever fight you’re having.

          • AusbildungDerAusbild [comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            Why would you include:

            Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an official of the collaborationist Hungarian government’s Ministry of Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding

            The topic you brought up was "unsavory service" a kid was pressed into. Plenty of people who survive the Shoa and Holocaust did it precisely by having other people claiming to be their parents.

            My grandmother was a kid herself (blue eyed, blond) during that time and was downstairs to another family while there was a check by the Nazis, the daughter of a Jewish family took her place so she would not get deported. The parents were deported at some point, though and likely died in KZ Sachsenhausen.

            She would later be fetched by people the parents knew, but her fate is not known to us, even after having my grandmother being a contemporary witness and working together with survivors of the Shoa.

            The point is that even before the Shoa it wasn't uncommon for Jewish parents who had kids to try to safe their offspring's lives and hid them during pogroms with Christians, but the Ghetto was a bad place and to include one venue of potential escape framed as unsavory is bad.

            In any case why would you repeat claims of that nature when in any case?

            • xXthrowawayXx [none/use name]
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              1 year ago

              Because elsewhere in the thread in addition to the distributing deportation papers (the process nazis used to fill the concentration camps) claim the claim was made that he survived the holocaust by living with the collaborationist government. Which seems to be true.

              I replied to the post because they asked for a source and it took less than sixty seconds to find one for both claims, in soros’ own voice.

              I did not bring up unsavory service. My first reply in this thread is the one you replied to.