Not defending new atheists btw

  • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    when we can keep track of 40 kinds of seeds for 10 different kinds of crops, each of which grows better in different conditions allowing for planting in response to weather conditions (and keeping track of which of the near identical seeds is better for what) based solely on your perception (how?) of it's subatomic structure and comprehension of the chemical interactions between them, each other (polycropping) the soil, the weather, insects, etc, without resorting to any sort of metaphor or shorthand, then we can talk about science.

    oh wait, we coulnd't do that. we introduced monocultures instead and annihilated the soil, forests, etc. oops, it worked well in theory/the lab tho 🤪 . we are very scientific, much materialism. materialism is when you observe something in labratory conditions for 12 months and then conclude it will work everywhere. 🤡

    'scientists' in this thread need to read Kuhn!

    • SerLava [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      ?

      Kind of feels like you're doing word association here

      • ComradeRat [he/him, they/them]
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        2 years ago

        Systems of religion and "superstition" are generally how they keep track of an remember a ton of information. Western scientists disregarded their knowledge about the soils, seeds, crops, etc, as superstition bc they talked about it in terms that the scientists didn't understand. They then disregarded the knowledge and fucked tons of shit up, list of sources if you want to investigate is in the comment i made before this one. I am saying unless you are capable of keeping track of all this information, without resorting even once to metaphor or shorthand. Kuhn is a scientist who wrote about science, is the foundation of most of modern understandings of how science works lmao

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Unless I am capable of keeping track of it, then what? What is the rest of that thought