• jackmarxist [any]
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    5 months ago

    Ukraine has lost even if they somehow win over Russia militarily. The best case scenario for Ukrainians is to flee to western countries and atleast enjoy a somewhat Stabler life.

    • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      better go real far west, as of right now all the countries in Europe are deporting Ukrainians back to become conscripted or are in the process of doing so. Better to have fled east.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        5 months ago

        Do you have any source of the actual deportations? Thing was talked about for months now, but afaik nothing real happened in any country, not even Poland wants to agree on that (that sweet social dumping is hard to give up and for example land transport and most likely construction business would collapse overnight if Ukrainians disappeared).

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          Many nations have stopped consular services and diplomatic services, and have stop renewing visas. So Ukrainians are forced to return to Ukraine

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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            5 months ago

            Didn't Ukraine just did it unilaterally by refusing its citizens abroad consular services? What makes them leave is not that they don't have visas, but that their passports aren't getting prolonged. Furthermore, several EU countries already declared that they can stay even without valid passport.