Is it all just a part of political theater meant to propel Meatball Ron into the spotlight, or are there deeper causes that this legislation is being created in reaction to? The purposeful dismantling of the education system seems like one piece, but what else is going on?

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    we're talking about modern day Florida and anti-LGBT legislation. We're not covering the grand scope of fascist history. Hitler probably did say killing the Jewish people was good for the economy since he claimed they had so much wealth and power. what wealth and power does the LGBT community have? not enough to matter currently. Maybe they say trans healthcare is a drain on the healthcare system? i havent heard that though, i just made that up. I was just trying to answer the question posed in the title of this thread.

    • SublationAction [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      It's the same story, the first targets of the Nazis were disabled people and trans people after all. US capitalism is in deep crisis and the response is playing out similarly (and differently). People have already made some good points tying patriarchy (including LGBT+ oppression) to social reproduction via uncompensated domestic labour etc. Trans people get the worst of it because they challenge patriarchal structures most directly, and provide an opportunity to mobilize and organize reactionary forces.

      There's much more to it, but the most important part is that just because fascism is irrational doesn't mean the directions it takes are incomprehensible. In fact, it's essential for Marxists to understand the similarities and differences between what's going on today and what's happened in the past.

    • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Hitler probably did say killing the Jewish people was good for the economy since he claimed they had so much wealth and power.

      Remember, the thing we're looking for is to understand the economic reasons why Florida is trying to genocide trans people. Fascists themselves aren't going to say "trans people are groomers, and also they represent an ideological threat to the system of social reproduction of labor" or whatever. Maybe you can get some hints from the bourgeois funders of fascists, but I would not expect to see economic reasoning straight from politician's mouths.

      they did argue about the cost of gender affirming healthcare for trans people in the military but like that wasn't the actual reason why, it was just a convenient argument to advance the already-existing project of trans oppression

        • StewartCopelandsDad [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          i kinda do, that’s how they convey so many of their plans. It’s always about saving money, especially for republicans.

          But that's not the real reason. E.g. conservatives put on the "small government" mask when they try to cut the welfare state. But they're not trying to get rid of unemployment benefits because they are just strong believers in a balanced budget*. They're trying to get rid of unemployment benefits because capital needs a reserve army of labor.

          * well maybe individual political actors are. But we're interested in the reasons the bourgeoisie selects these guys.