We must ban your :elmofire: treats to prevent forest fires, pollution, lung cancer, other lung damage, littering, and injury.

The power company's malfunctioning equipment that starts 80% of forest fires, the cars that produce 75% of the pollution, the cigarettes that cause 90% of the lung cancer, the COVID giving everyone lung damage, the fast food packaging and vapes that make up almost all litter are all fine though. Tragic about those 5 people per year who get a booboo from forest fire embers, though.

  • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Where did you get that data from Washington State last year has the portion of wildfires caused by recreation/ceremony as roughly equal to that of power generation and transmission (both at roughly 7.5%) In Idaho from 1980 to 2007 Campfires were the most common human-caused source of wildfires. Even older nationwide data has smoking and campfires combined, as a greater cause of wildfires than equipment (6.7% vs 3.7%). In the Montane subregion of Alberta , campfires are the most common human cause of wildfires.

    The number of wildfires caused by campfires are also suppressed by the fact that they are banned in the most fire-prone areas, take away those bans, and the count would probably increase a great deal.

    I don't think campfires should be banned in areas where they pose little risk of starting a wildfire, but bans on them are not comparable to restricting showers. People need showers for basic hygiene. No camper or hiker should need to start a fire to enjoy their time outdoors, particularly when the risk of something going wrong is both entirely preventable and potentially enormous in consequences.

    • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I was about to argue with you. Like, you're right, but I think I just found the treat I'm willing to be a treat guy about. Ngl I break fire bans every year, but I do it in clearings, build rings, put it out and only scatter ashes I can hold in my hands