the question that is implied there is what do you do if they don't forgive you and make it clear they never will and want you to stop trying. Because the uncomfortable implication is that you are then locked in to your bad behavior and might as well keep going
seeking victim forgiveness is an important step in recoverying from a harmful habit or state of being but ultimately I think there needs to be forgiveness both internal and societal regardless of what the victim has to say for the simple reason that there needs to be a way out or people won't even try to stop on the basis that there isn't anything on the other side anymore
that is true but I was also speaking more generally about wrongdoing
it is easy for an imperialist society to forgive its own killers but what else are we going to do with them. If we killed or imprisoned them it wouldn't undo their crimes.
I was recently asked to support Ukraine on the basis of what if your mother was killed by a Russian shell wouldn't you want the Russians dead and I think it's kind harsh but we can't make decisions on that basis or we just end up covered in blood.
Sometimes the damage a person or society has caused is more than they can undo or fix and the question at that point is what do you want from them. They should fix it but are clearly incapable of doing so so now what
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the question that is implied there is what do you do if they don't forgive you and make it clear they never will and want you to stop trying. Because the uncomfortable implication is that you are then locked in to your bad behavior and might as well keep going
seeking victim forgiveness is an important step in recoverying from a harmful habit or state of being but ultimately I think there needs to be forgiveness both internal and societal regardless of what the victim has to say for the simple reason that there needs to be a way out or people won't even try to stop on the basis that there isn't anything on the other side anymore
Its not difficult for an imperialist society to forgive its own hitmen.
I think this kind of thinking falls apart when the crimes go from national to international.
that is true but I was also speaking more generally about wrongdoing
it is easy for an imperialist society to forgive its own killers but what else are we going to do with them. If we killed or imprisoned them it wouldn't undo their crimes.
I was recently asked to support Ukraine on the basis of what if your mother was killed by a Russian shell wouldn't you want the Russians dead and I think it's kind harsh but we can't make decisions on that basis or we just end up covered in blood.
Sometimes the damage a person or society has caused is more than they can undo or fix and the question at that point is what do you want from them. They should fix it but are clearly incapable of doing so so now what
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