Imagine writing this about members of Wehrmacht, which at least had conscription. I'd be skeptical of welcoming into my org former Nazi soldiers who say they're reformed. I'd be very skeptical if they're unwilling to publicly apologize to their victims, or if they seem more interested in promoting their identity as a troop than anything else.
Some human beings are permanently ruined. I don't intend to suggest that the power of love and friendship can save everyone. But to blame the individual is to excuse the primary blame holder: the ones who put the guns in their hands and taught them who to shoot at.
Also, yeah, if they can't apologize to their victims, they are still ruined. Their humanity has been destroyed by an outside factor. We can't accept them in that state. The boldest among us can try that repair process but it's grueling work and it's sure as hell not guaranteed to succeed.
yeah I don't think we should trust vets either and most are completely unrepentent and don't even think they did anything wrong. Far more of that guy who killed Neely than people sincerely trying to move on.
But at the same time I think it is imperative that we allow people chances to change who they were. That isn't saying trust them implicitly as soon as they even hint they want to change though the safety of others is more important than their chance to change but revenge is less important
Imagine writing this about members of Wehrmacht, which at least had conscription. I'd be skeptical of welcoming into my org former Nazi soldiers who say they're reformed. I'd be very skeptical if they're unwilling to publicly apologize to their victims, or if they seem more interested in promoting their identity as a troop than anything else.
Some human beings are permanently ruined. I don't intend to suggest that the power of love and friendship can save everyone. But to blame the individual is to excuse the primary blame holder: the ones who put the guns in their hands and taught them who to shoot at.
Also, yeah, if they can't apologize to their victims, they are still ruined. Their humanity has been destroyed by an outside factor. We can't accept them in that state. The boldest among us can try that repair process but it's grueling work and it's sure as hell not guaranteed to succeed.
well that was more or less the society of East Germany wasn't it.
Under the leadership of a communist government that denazified the country and suppressed reactionaries.
We don't have anyone denazifying vets seeking to join our organizing or proclaiming to be leftists. We have to be critical of them ourselves.
yeah I don't think we should trust vets either and most are completely unrepentent and don't even think they did anything wrong. Far more of that guy who killed Neely than people sincerely trying to move on.
But at the same time I think it is imperative that we allow people chances to change who they were. That isn't saying trust them implicitly as soon as they even hint they want to change though the safety of others is more important than their chance to change but revenge is less important
so you're saying under different material conditions the vets could be rehabilitated? wow crazy
Not necessarily, they could be nullified and shamed to a point. Rehabilitated is a strong word