this is vaguely related to the string theory related post from a day or two ago, it's all bazinga science folks TL;DW string theory is a big thing because people that read pop science really liked it and it took a long time for physicists to come out in force and say "this is untestable garbage"

  • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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    Roiland is a piece of shit, but the show is very explicit about how letting everyone you care about die, and then jumping into an alternate universe where you didn't do this is traumatizing.

    The show doesn't go more than an episode without reminding the viewer that everybody including Rick hates Rick for behaving like a detached asshole.

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      • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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        Yeah, it is an exploration of the ultimate liberal paradox. What would it mean if a smart rich person was mean? To the liberal mind, it means they must be correct. Which given that he show it entertaining it is hard for liberals to understand they are wrong.

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          • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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            Satire requires a clarity of purpose. Just because it fails the test doesn't make the liberals correct. They are fundamentally unable to see a smart rich white man as deserving anything other than praise. Which is on them for being shitlibs

            One episode a season is dedicated explicitly to how bad a person is and how he is the cause of his own problems. They even wrote a in show therapist to tell him this to his face and they multiple times show that she is correct. If that is not enough for the libs, then I am afraid they are simply libs.

            We have to deal with the fact that being evil and doing rad evil shit is fun. That is our lot as fun hating comunists.

            • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
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              We have to deal with the fact that being evil and doing rad evil shit is fun.

              I don't know, I have a hard time even doing an evil playthrough of a video game, by which I mean I've never been able to do an evil playthrough of a video game. Being cruel feels bad, even if nobody is actually harmed.

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            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              We have to deal with the fact that being evil and doing rad evil shit is fun

              Being the direct executor of murder is typically not fun

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                • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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                  We like the hanging of Mussolini because it represents the triumph of the Italian public over Mussolini. If the picture was more zoomed it, it would still be more nauseating than anything because it is still fundamentally a mutilated corpse. We may support killing Mussolinis, and we may be flippant or jovial in our talking about supporting killing Mussolinis, but that does not make the actual act of killing a Mussolini fun. Even if the killer is happy in the act, which would be a bit odd, we would expect it to be mainly due to the public good the killing represents rather than the visceral reality of the immediate situation.

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                • fox [comrade/them]
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                  Murder should never be fun even if it's the morally correct choice

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              • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                The reason Rick doesn't face consequences is because he is rich and white and powerful. Same reason all the people in real life don't.

                I think sales and fandoms show that most people are attracted to the notions of being perfectly liberalized from every possibility of consequence. That is laudable that you don't like it, but hardly consequencial.

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                  • UnicodeHamSic [he/him]
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                    Of course. It is the dialectic. Meat is delicious. Veganism is morally and ethically correct. So we must develop a synthesis acknowledging pleasure is not sufficent.

                    Power fantasies are fun. You have the antihisis. So again we have the dialectic and it does no good to deny it. It is complicated by art of this style being a hedonistic exercise.

    • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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      Roiland is a piece of shit, but the show is very explicit about how letting everyone you care about die, and then jumping into an alternate universe where you didn’t do this is traumatizing.

      Is it implied that that's the only reason why you shouldn't do it?

      • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        No, there's a few episodes where the survivors (and his adopted family) tell the guy who did it how fucked up it was, then he does it again. I can't say they hate him for that specifically because there's so many other things everyone he cares about hate him for it's unclear.

        They also go back to the old universes a couple times to see what happened after he irreversibly fucked up the planet, but also removed himself from the equation. The show is pretty clear that every he loves is better off without him.