https://twitter.com/ricwe123/status/1659592008166522880

  • RedDawn [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The taliban were never going to forcibly evict the Americans

    Yes they were.

    They had been in that situation for two decades

    The situation changed continuously over two decades with varying levels of US troops and Taliban fighters, the latter had grown considerably in the last couple years, and the only way for America to maintain a presence on the ground in the face of that would have been to commit significantly more troops of their own once again. You're Joe Biden and you're faced with leaving Afghanistan and thus being the president that finally ends the unpopular forever war and brings the troops home, or doubling down and sending more Americans to Afghanistan. You're going to be running for reelection in a couple years, what do you do?

    • serveranim [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Yes they were.

      First I've ever heard of it, and I've followed it on and off since the invasion.

      You’re going to be running for reelection in a couple years, what do you do?

      I would have let Trump take the blame, since he was so adamant about ending wars by forcing America (DC) to lose them.

      • RedDawn [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Trump admin is the one that reached the agreement with the Taliban for withdrawal. When he did so there were 13,000 US troops there and by the time Biden took office there were like 2,500. Biden admin has indeed pointed the finger at his predecessor for the sloppy withdrawal. So essentially, you would have done exactly what Biden did in this situation. So what's the mystery?

        • serveranim [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          This novel idea that the Taliban were about to evict the US from the country. Wasn't going to happen without a plan out of DC.

          • RedDawn [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            OK I guess the 13,000 US troops were going to hold out for 50 years against 200,000 Taliban or something

              • OrionsMask [he/him, comrade/them]
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                2 years ago

                Typical cracker yankee hubris and rhetoric. Of course our "high tech" white troops can hold out forever against the "illiterate" brown hordes, it doesn't matter that they're outnumbered nearly 20:1! One of our boys is worth easily 30 of theirs!

                Death to America

              • RedDawn [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Why not? Because they couldn't. The options were get out entirely or commit a much larger number of troops.

                • serveranim [none/use name]
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                  2 years ago

                  Uh-huh. I would have heard about that. I don't suppose you can supply some sources on this from the DC blob.

                  • RedDawn [he/him]
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                    2 years ago

                    Read the Afghanistan papers.

                    I would have heard about that.

                    Apparently not. Apparently you've followed it since the invasion but don't realize that there were up to 100,000 American troops at points before handing over the baton progressively to the Afghan government which was so lacking in legitimacy that the Taliban numbers were growing massively again in the last few years and controlled the country within weeks of US withdrawal. So somehow the handful of US troops could have just stayed for as long as they wanted without once again committing far more troops, despite the large and growing resistance to their presence.

                    Edit: I misquoted you so editing to correct that.