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  • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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    1 year ago

    They literally can, that’s what this whole discussion is about.

    How? You have literally never given an example of somebody forced to be a father.

    That and the law.

    Which law? Where was this law when my father walked out?

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      • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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        Paying child support is not the same as being a father, end of.

        not paying child support is punishable

        You vastly overestimate how cut-and-dry the legal system is on this matter. My mom actually sued my 'donor' over failure to pay child support and the court sided with him because he lived in poverty.

        You pay child support because the state recognizes you as the father of the child. This happens wether or not you consent to be a parent. Depending on the place you’re in, there will also be additional responsibilites.

        I asked you for an example of somebody who was forced into fatherhood IRL. You responded with a hypothetical person who exists only within the legal framework of child support. This is not engaging in good faith.

        So if you've knocked someone up and are having anxieties about it, maybe come at it from that angle instead of this delusional "But men!" angle.

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          • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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            1 year ago

            What are you even talking about? Where have I made this personal or about my worries for myself?

            Normal people don't just enter debate bro mode like this. This is a defence mechanism, and I know because I used to do it too. If you're not willing to admit you're not in a good place, I'm not willing to continue this discussion.

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              • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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                M8, when I said paying child support =/= being a father, you said it was the same under the law. You completely ignored the fact that fathering takes more than just money so you could move the goalposts from me. You never defined your terms and yet you seriously expect me to believe you're engaging in good faith?

                Also in the time it took me to phrase this comment, you changed the one I was replying to 3 times. You're literally making it up as you go.

                Opinions discarded. Enjoy your child support anxieties.