It has to be more than just internationalism vs socialism in one country.

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    I don't really hate Trotsky much but Trotskyists are super weird, didn't one of Trotskyite groups support ISIS in Syria?

    • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, but so did the Italian Marxist-Leninist Party.

      Or the Greek Communist party (not KKE) that thinks Russia was behind 9/11 and the EU is based.

      There's cranks everywhere.

      • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        But this weren't them having "hot takes". this was an actual group out of Libya and Syria.

        but yes i agree every org has its cranks

        • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          The infamous Leon Sedov Brigade? They're a bunch of Argentinians, I believe. They supported Al-Qaeda, not ISIS btw.

          Probably insignificant in the grand scale of things, but yeah, actually involved in fighting.

          Edit: Apparently it disbanded in 2015 after the Battle of Aleppo.

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            There was a solid case for supporting Al-Qaeda against the US occupation of Afghanistan on anti-imperialist grounds, at least. I'm slightly impressed that Al Qaeda accepted their help.

    • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah my one interaction with a major US Trot group was me trying to be friendly and have a conversation about politics and labor and they kept trying to get me to buy their newspaper. I eventually caved and bought one but I thought it was really dumb to focus on that - like here you have this prole saying he's trying to organize his workplace and is politically frustrated and all you do is try to get him to buy a paper.