I know we are temporarily non-lemmy, but we will reunite soon. Here's some relevant :reddit-logo: comments:
The lemmyverse currently has 54 instances, and 1.2K monthly active users.
Yeah, with numbers like that they're going to need to get the word out a whole lot more.
As of the writing of this post, we have 425 people online, which is pretty typical.
Thousands??? Last I checked Lemmy had 460 monthly users. That means a large majority of those "communities" don't really exist. With that few people, even 1 "community" is going to be looking mighty dead.
Mastadon has 10 million users and people still complain about how dead it is. Lemmy and their 460 users?? LOL.
I can't figure out why it keeps being brought up. It would crumble under any amount of real traffic. Best I can figure is all 460 of their users are shilling on reddit.
There's a bunch more but I'm not really trying to make any point besides, "huh, look at that" so I will not put in any more effort.
"shilling" God I hate redditors. Do they think Twitter instantly got a million users? Shit takes time.
Early reddit was all IT guys mad that slashdot got too mainatream lol, also simultaneously pining for some undefined period before reddit got too mainstream (had like 3 not IT guy users).
Early reddit
member when the top subreddit was pedo bait? :libertarian-approaching:
I asked yesterday and we aren’t the biggest instance
how dare you say something like this
I am calling for the immediate censure of this poster for their anti-Hexbear rhetoric
I cannot stress enough how true this is because we've uncovered a large chunk of lemmy bugs trying to migrate us over to upstream lemmy because things start to break as you get large amounts of comments (remove comment taking forever) as well as deeply nested comments (we love trans comrades bug). These go under the radar on lemmy because there just isn't enough activity to make these problems noticeable.
I would say that is partially due to the difference in culture. The posts here are quite different from those on lemmy.
The post culture here is what sets this site apart as a space worth visiting imo. Usually good vibes too.
There is an extremely unique posting humor here where sarcasm is always understood and custom emotes develop semantic depth. It feels like hanging with your friends who all have the same general sense of humor.
Me at the Lemmy party:
"They don't know I'm the biggest instance."
people on lemmy and lemmygrad are aware of us but since we don't seem to have any intent to federate and we basically use a totally overhauled version of their site from several years ago, why would they consider us part of the network. Even our new instance is definitely modified from base lemmy, though less heavily than here (totally custom frontend)
I don't think we really want to be part of it either... even federating with lemmygrad would cause so much struggle session and moderation difficulties because of the culture we've developed, and differing views on certain topics, let alone federating with lib instances
I would certainly like federation with lemmy and lemmygrad, though I understand concerns.
I can't decide if it would be cool or a shitshow. or a cool shitshow I guess
I think with the new instance, when it launches, we'll probably federate with Lemmyml and lemmygrad, as well as a few others. No way we'll federate with the liberal instances though.
The lib instances like beehaw will instantly ban us anyway, so no need to think too worry
idk, they just picked a bee theme, I guess. It works, since it's a radlib hive.
There are no plans to federate with lemmy.ml that I know of, I feel like that's just your headcanon, and federation with lemmygrad has been described by admins as "maybe eventually, not right away"
I have mixed feelings about the whole thing tbh. staying fully independent has its upsides, and I think struggle sessions between here and lemmygrad.ml would be counterproductive and possibly inevitable. Though this site has changed a lot
The upgraded software puts federation on the table, but that will have to be a community decision. I don't particularly mind one way or another.
It might not be a bad idea to wait and see how Lemmy copes with the Redditors.
Well with our relative sizes of userbase, a wait and see approach is an option, but it isn't a neutral one. If we join we could affect the outcome
We definitely need to not federated just with lemmygrad, because then it'll just be fighting. Our main usefulness is on lemmy attacking libs
that's where my mind went as well. a united front against the tidal wave of libs seems good. 1 degree of separation from explicitly lib instances like beehaw, so we can still yell at them a bit on lemmy.ml posts (neutral ground) but don't have to see their shit directly as much
But I don't think everyone on this site wants to be involved in a posting war. Whether or not leaving the little box at the top set to only Local (the default) would be enough for our threads to remain relatively safe places while others who want to engage with lemmy can browse All is hard to guess.
The main issue is that the lemmy.ml usership would also have access to our threads, and the predditor influx means that there will be a few more people screeching about "tankies" etc, but maybe that will end up being cathartic to our userbase because they'll be highly fair game to dogpile.
it would be cool to have private (to our instance) communities and public communities honestly
I also have an account on lemmygrad, and it almost never happens. You very rarely see someone commenting from lemmy who isn't comrade or banned soon.
I would absolutely love the occasional lib wandering in and getting pounded in real time. It was the best part of the sub and when it happens here it's so much more fun because it updates live.
I'd like to see it tried at any rate. If it turns out to be more trouble than it's worth, well it wouldn't be the first time the admins reverted a change.
lemmy.ml seems to be about as "leftist" as the old subreddit. The liberals tend to funnel over to their own instances that wouldn't federate with us.
that's why we should also federate with raddle.me and sit back in a form of advanced centrism.
i'd like to though. this community lost something when we stopped bugging libs.
It would more be us instantly being banned on their instance, and then instantly being banned on ours
But if we were federated with lemmy.ml we could still make posts there that they can see, and interact in the comments
what does it mean to be federated exactly? like people could post in coms from the other site and see posts?
Yes. If you look at lemmygrad and select see posts from "All" not just local, you'll see posts from other instances such as lemmy.ml. people from either can browse each other's posts and comment and stuff
I couldn't even find anything on lemmy.ml or lemmygrad that indicated some kind of federation thing.
So, um, this is the dev comm, meaning this post isn't supposed to be here, and will likely get removed
told y'all this when the name changed but hexbear is a dumb name but imo lemmy is even more dumb
A communist website shouldn't be named after a liberal podcast.
Doesnt this site exist becuase there was a split amognst the discord nerds some went lemmy some came here.
I believe lemmy was already underway as a project when r/CTH got banned. During the Discord Interregnum, it was decided to start a new instance so as not to overwhelm lemmy.ml with that community's particular culture. A chunk of former CTH people went to lemmy, of course, but it wasn't a split. - it was a decision not to merge. That's how I remember it at least.
I don't recall it being that amicable.
Either way i don't think this site will ever grow.
Either way i don’t think this site will ever grow.
If that's the case then oh well. It's extremely active and seems stable. It's got years left in it without growth.
smaller forums have been around for longer yeah, so long as i'm a communist and there are other communists here i'll always find my way back to this site eventually.
No they're pretty much right, the only thing is that we merged 6 months before Lemmy had federation in place, and our codebase had significantly diverged by then.