I know we are temporarily non-lemmy, but we will reunite soon. Here's some relevant :reddit-logo: comments:

The lemmyverse currently has 54 instances, and 1.2K monthly active users.

Yeah, with numbers like that they're going to need to get the word out a whole lot more.

DataHoarders

As of the writing of this post, we have 425 people online, which is pretty typical.

Thousands??? Last I checked Lemmy had 460 monthly users. That means a large majority of those "communities" don't really exist. With that few people, even 1 "community" is going to be looking mighty dead.

Mastadon has 10 million users and people still complain about how dead it is. Lemmy and their 460 users?? LOL.

I can't figure out why it keeps being brought up. It would crumble under any amount of real traffic. Best I can figure is all 460 of their users are shilling on reddit.

InternetIsBeautiful

There's a bunch more but I'm not really trying to make any point besides, "huh, look at that" so I will not put in any more effort.

  • FuckyWucky [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    "shilling" God I hate redditors. Do they think Twitter instantly got a million users? Shit takes time.

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Early reddit was all IT guys mad that slashdot got too mainatream lol, also simultaneously pining for some undefined period before reddit got too mainstream (had like 3 not IT guy users).

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Early reddit

        member when the top subreddit was pedo bait? :libertarian-approaching:

  • W_Hexa_W
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    1 year ago

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    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I asked yesterday and we aren’t the biggest instance

      how dare you say something like this

      • Kaputnik [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I am calling for the immediate censure of this poster for their anti-Hexbear rhetoric

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          14 days ago

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    • solaranus
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      1 year ago

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      • makotech222 [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I cannot stress enough how true this is because we've uncovered a large chunk of lemmy bugs trying to migrate us over to upstream lemmy because things start to break as you get large amounts of comments (remove comment taking forever) as well as deeply nested comments (we love trans comrades bug). These go under the radar on lemmy because there just isn't enough activity to make these problems noticeable.

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        1 year ago

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          1 year ago

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      • Paradox5240 [he/him,any]
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        1 year ago

        I would say that is partially due to the difference in culture. The posts here are quite different from those on lemmy.

        • Abracadaniel [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          The post culture here is what sets this site apart as a space worth visiting imo. Usually good vibes too.

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            There is an extremely unique posting humor here where sarcasm is always understood and custom emotes develop semantic depth. It feels like hanging with your friends who all have the same general sense of humor.

  • Aceivan [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    people on lemmy and lemmygrad are aware of us but since we don't seem to have any intent to federate and we basically use a totally overhauled version of their site from several years ago, why would they consider us part of the network. Even our new instance is definitely modified from base lemmy, though less heavily than here (totally custom frontend)

    I don't think we really want to be part of it either... even federating with lemmygrad would cause so much struggle session and moderation difficulties because of the culture we've developed, and differing views on certain topics, let alone federating with lib instances

    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I would certainly like federation with lemmy and lemmygrad, though I understand concerns.

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I think with the new instance, when it launches, we'll probably federate with Lemmyml and lemmygrad, as well as a few others. No way we'll federate with the liberal instances though.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The lib instances like beehaw will instantly ban us anyway, so no need to think too worry

      • Aceivan [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        There are no plans to federate with lemmy.ml that I know of, I feel like that's just your headcanon, and federation with lemmygrad has been described by admins as "maybe eventually, not right away"

        I have mixed feelings about the whole thing tbh. staying fully independent has its upsides, and I think struggle sessions between here and lemmygrad.ml would be counterproductive and possibly inevitable. Though this site has changed a lot

        • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          The upgraded software puts federation on the table, but that will have to be a community decision. I don't particularly mind one way or another.

          It might not be a bad idea to wait and see how Lemmy copes with the Redditors.

          • Aceivan [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            Well with our relative sizes of userbase, a wait and see approach is an option, but it isn't a neutral one. If we join we could affect the outcome

        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          We definitely need to not federated just with lemmygrad, because then it'll just be fighting. Our main usefulness is on lemmy attacking libs

          • Aceivan [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            that's where my mind went as well. a united front against the tidal wave of libs seems good. 1 degree of separation from explicitly lib instances like beehaw, so we can still yell at them a bit on lemmy.ml posts (neutral ground) but don't have to see their shit directly as much

            But I don't think everyone on this site wants to be involved in a posting war. Whether or not leaving the little box at the top set to only Local (the default) would be enough for our threads to remain relatively safe places while others who want to engage with lemmy can browse All is hard to guess.

            • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              The main issue is that the lemmy.ml usership would also have access to our threads, and the predditor influx means that there will be a few more people screeching about "tankies" etc, but maybe that will end up being cathartic to our userbase because they'll be highly fair game to dogpile.

              • Aceivan [they/them]
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                1 year ago

                it would be cool to have private (to our instance) communities and public communities honestly

              • Paradox5240 [he/him,any]
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                1 year ago

                I also have an account on lemmygrad, and it almost never happens. You very rarely see someone commenting from lemmy who isn't comrade or banned soon.

              • Huitzilopochtli [they/them]
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                1 year ago

                I would absolutely love the occasional lib wandering in and getting pounded in real time. It was the best part of the sub and when it happens here it's so much more fun because it updates live.

              • ssjmarx [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                I'd like to see it tried at any rate. If it turns out to be more trouble than it's worth, well it wouldn't be the first time the admins reverted a change.

              • familiar [he/him]
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                1 year ago

                lemmy.ml seems to be about as "leftist" as the old subreddit. The liberals tend to funnel over to their own instances that wouldn't federate with us.

        • bubbalu [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          that's why we should also federate with raddle.me and sit back in a form of advanced centrism.

          • Aceivan [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            But if we were federated with lemmy.ml we could still make posts there that they can see, and interact in the comments

    • bubbalu [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      what does it mean to be federated exactly? like people could post in coms from the other site and see posts?

      • Aceivan [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Yes. If you look at lemmygrad and select see posts from "All" not just local, you'll see posts from other instances such as lemmy.ml. people from either can browse each other's posts and comment and stuff

      • blobjim [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I couldn't even find anything on lemmy.ml or lemmygrad that indicated some kind of federation thing.

  • Sphere [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    So, um, this is the dev comm, meaning this post isn't supposed to be here, and will likely get removed

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    1 year ago

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    • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      I believe lemmy was already underway as a project when r/CTH got banned. During the Discord Interregnum, it was decided to start a new instance so as not to overwhelm lemmy.ml with that community's particular culture. A chunk of former CTH people went to lemmy, of course, but it wasn't a split. - it was a decision not to merge. That's how I remember it at least.

        • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Either way i don’t think this site will ever grow.

          If that's the case then oh well. It's extremely active and seems stable. It's got years left in it without growth.

          • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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            1 year ago

            smaller forums have been around for longer yeah, so long as i'm a communist and there are other communists here i'll always find my way back to this site eventually.

        • familiar [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          No they're pretty much right, the only thing is that we merged 6 months before Lemmy had federation in place, and our codebase had significantly diverged by then.