Title, I'm a leftist but after reading some things on lemmygrad and here it seems I might have been lied to all my life. I have talked with some people from Cuba and Venezuela (expats) that support the west narrative about poverty and mismanagement. I "believe" that Russia is attacking Ukraine for selfish reasons and that China censors access to foreign information using the Great Firewall, please prove me wrong. Furthermore, it ultimately depends who do you want to believe or there are hard facts from reputable sources that are simply a hidden by the mass media?

EDIT: Thanks everyone for your very civil responses. I'll answer as many as I can!

  • macabrett
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    1 year ago

    Regarding anti vaxx, I don’t know where it came from and it’s wrong but why would you censor it? Once you begin to censor, where exactly is the limit? On lies? Who decides what is truth?

    You say the above here. But...

    Hate speech and fascism shouldn’t be allowed, you can’t be tolerant with the intolerants because they will use that tolerance against you.

    You say this elsewhere in the thread. Why is it okay to not allow hate speech and fascism, but anti-vaxx should be allowed? Anti-vaxx rhetoric has made the world considerably more dangerous for everyone. Why does censoring that warrant a "where exactly is the limit?" from you, but hate speech and fascism does not? Personally, I would consider anti-vaxx rhetoric the same as eugenics. Its hate speech brought into real action. It advocates for the death of the disabled.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Not to mention some diseases and cancers are regional and have treatments that help certain social and geographic groups more than others. So not only is antivaxx ableist, it's also frequently racist and queerphobic