https://instituteforglobalaffairs.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/IGA-Modeling-Democracy-2024-The-New-Atlanticism.pdf

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    I hate to be a killjoy but I wonder how many of the people who answered "Yes the war has killed or injured hundreds of thousands of people and it needs to stop" really meant to say "Yes the war has killed [etc...] and it must stop with a negotiated settlement resulting in the unconditional surrender of Russia".

  • fubarx@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    This is as useful as polling relatives on whether a couple should go through with a divorce.

  • lorty@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    "[...] imperfect victory"

    What? Are they going to push some winter war narrative after this is over?

  • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de
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    6 months ago

    "while Ukraine still has levarage ... imperfect victory"

    That's a view of the situation I can't understand. What is the leverage they currently hold? How would it be any kind of victory to settle now that they have lost so many of their cities and so much area?

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      Basically, the reality of the situation is that Ukraine ends up in a worse position with each and every day. If Ukraine took the peace deal back in 2022 it would've been immeasurably better than any deal it can hope for now. Western support peaked during the time of 2023 offensive, and it's been rapidly declining since. The west pouring in money and weapons into Ukraine has been the only reason it was able to keep fighting this long. As the available resources dry up, the situation will continue to decline at an accelerating pace.