Ted Kaczynski, showing the lengths one must go to get the press to properly pronounce a polish name.

https://nitter.1d4.us/AP/status/1667577826785017863

  • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    "In the psychiatric evaluation, Johnson reveals that Kaczynski had persistent and intense sexual fantasies about being a woman. While he was a graduate student at the University of Michigan in 1967, he went to a psychiatrist to discuss his wishes for a sex change operation. But in the waiting room, he decided he could not go forward. Instead, he told the psychiatrist he was depressed about the possibility of being drafted."

    ...

    "As I walked away from the building afterwards," Kaczynski wrote in documents released today, "I felt disgusted about what my uncontrolled sexual cravings had almost led me to do. And I felt humiliated, and I violently hated the psychiatrist. Just then there came a major turning point in my life. Like a Phoenix, I burst from the ashes of my despair to a glorious new hope."

    source

    I wonder what would have happened if they were born a few decades later and didn't have their brains scrambled by MKULTRA. I hope they've found peace.

      • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        It's tempting to meme or joke about it, but we really can't know. It could have saved them a tremendous amount of suffering. Same with Kurt Cobain.

        • BlueParenti [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I'd heard Cobain had been questioning of their sexuality but I've never heard that they questioned their gender, was curious if you had any reading on that?

          • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Nothing at hand I'm sorry to say. My partner was showing my a compilation of quotes and journal entries and such last year that were pretty compelling when taken as a whole

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      1 year ago

      The MKULTRA shit he got put through was having a guy go debate streamer mode on him and yell at him about how dumb and stupid all his ideas and beliefs were, if that scrambled his brains then idk, something would probably have fucked him up anyways.

      He didnt even believe any of that stuff had real impact on him.

            • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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              1 year ago

              When I read through programmed to kill, every case I was decently familiar with he seemed to just make shit up or say flat out incorrect things about it.

              Edit: Or take serial killer claims about being trained as a super mega cult assassin as fact without it being in any way a plausible claim.

              Also I am aware of some of these cases, but the ones that dont have any real connection besides the whole of american psychiatry or military are more common than the ones with a legit connection, its absolutely nowhere near most.

                • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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                  1 year ago

                  Ok, being fair, I dont think he personally made up any stories, but that he believed stories that should not be believed.

                  My prime example being that he takes Henry Lee Lucas story of being recruited by "The hand of death" and taught how to kill with every kind of method there is, as believable. Meanwhile every murder Lucas has reliably been connected to and actually reasonably convicted of, his description of how he murdered that person was "idk I guess I punched them with my knife", he also said shit like he drove to Japan and killed people there in order to try and mess with a Japanese TV crew.

                  Theres also others, like Maury Terry who I and many others believe to be gullible as fuck in dealing with Son of Sam, also he cites George Estabrooks, a hypnotism nutjob who tried to convince J Edgar Hoover that he should be allowed to blow up a real munitions plant as a demonstration of hypnotic power, as well as impersonated an FBI agent to try build his own network of anti german snitches at the university he taught at.

                  Thats just from skimming the areas I am most familiar with now, I just am struck by an overwhelming vibe of untrustworthy credulity in McGowan, like I'm going through this and he seems to be supporting the idea of Satanic Ritual Abuse and DID-programming, like literally just that the satanic panic was real and valid.

                  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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                    1 year ago

                    One particular thing I noticed that absolutely makes me question him is that at one point, or possibly several, he makes the suggestion that for so many satanic ritual abuse stories to feature the same kind of acts and violence, there would have had to be a nationwide conspiracy of therapists.

                    But he does not mention that there was in fact an organization for therapists that believed in satanic ritual abuse, it has been named several things but most recently the ISSTD, the International Society for the study of Trauma and Dissociation.

                    It held workshops, was featured in TV specials, articles were published in both medical journals and newspapers etc. It has also a long history of having prominent members and even presidents be accused of medical and sexual abuse, as well as brainwashing their patients, plenty involved have lost their licenses or had to pay out malpractice suits.

                    I at least, did not see any mention of this from McGowan in the book, though he did cite at least one psychotherapist who has been on their board of directors. This really does seriously hurt his crediblity, particularly in a book so obsessed with connections, there literally was an organization that was actively spreading tales of satanic ritual abuse indirectly and directly to therapists and the public, thats a serious thing to leave out when discussing how the same descriptions spring up in separate places and accusations.

                    Thats also not to mention the book Michelle Remembers, an extremely high profile and popular book at the time that many say sparked the satanic panic for real, its also complete horseshit and has been debunked thoroughly.

                    Edit: Actually extra egregious on the last part, the co-author of the book, Lawrence Pazder, consulted on the McMartin Preschool Trial, something also seemingly not noted by McGowan as far as I could tell reading that section.

                    Additonal edit: And I would like to further note that among this organization and other associated psychiatrists and therapists, most have been known to not only heavily use hypnotism, a suggested brainwashing technique, but several are also noted as having used sodium pentothal and amytal in their treatments of DID and alleged satanic ritual abuse patients, both of which feature in MKULTRA testing as proposed truth serums.

        • space_comrade [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          most serial killers/cult leaders have mkuktra connects

          Got a few notable examples? Never heard of this before.

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            1 year ago

            Aside from Ted, Charles Manson got LSD from a CIA connected clinic and potentially had deeper connections but theres not much solid beyond that.

            And then also theres a mafia guy who said he got put on LSD for like a week straight in jail.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Imagine being stuck in a room with Vaush debatebro-ing you and you're not allowed to leave, though. I think I'd lose my mind in minutes.

        • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          While also tripping balls on acid which you weren't even aware was administered to you. From what I remember, skilled trial lawyers were recruited for these sessions. They'd grill you and grill you incessantly on your most basic, core principles, beliefs, and values. Just ripping you to shreds as a person while you're on industrial grade LSD. It's hard to overstate the genuine psychic damage this does to a person.

          • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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            1 year ago

            To my knowledge, Ted was NOT dosed with acid as part of this nor any other mkultra chemical, it was just prolonged verbal abuse and humiliation.