Also the people complaining about it are always foreign learners. I'm sure there is a very small number of native speakers who whine about it but when you're surrounded by Hanzi it's hard to not learn it. Seems kinda fucked up to tell someone their 4000 year old writing system "doesn't make sense" and "there are no benefits to it compared to alphabets". The Chinese are doing fine with it. I'm not looking it up but I guarantee literacy is much higher than America.