Every time we chat, and the discussion turns towards capitalism, she’s the one who without any hesitation just says we should kill them all. Now, though, it’s gone further to torture. And she names names. In addition to people like Bezos and Musk, she includes Ben Shapiro, Andrew Tate and others.

I say we should force them to work and maybe learn the error of their ways (After the revolution of course. During it many of these fucks will die and I’ll be glad).

Her current jobs is extremely horrible. She’s being massively overworked, verbally abused and, of course, underpaid. So I get her frustration. But it’s also scary. I don’t want her to get in any trouble.

I don’t know if I should be gently turning her away from imagining a slow and painful torture of capitalists or not. Am I being a lib or is she too extreme?

    • maya [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      Our enemies aren't ontologically evil, they're caught up in systems beyond human control just like the rest of us. Violence against them is justified because it's necessary to change things, but if a peaceful revolution were possible I would advocate for that instead. Torture is unjustifiable because it accomplishes nothing. It's just harm for harm's sake, and as a leftists a core part of my worldview is that we should minimize the harm inflicted on any living being.

        • maya [she/her, they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I already agreed that self defense is justified. My point is that our enemies weren't born evil, they were shaped by material forces just like everyone else. If they're an obstacle to progress and can't be reformed I'm not against execution, but it should be done for practical reasons, not as punishment. That's christian morality shit.

          (Fantasizing about torture is totally fine so if you weren't 100% serious please disregard this)

        • machiabelly [she/her]
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          2 years ago

          Then we kill them. Nobody in this thread is against a firing squad.