Yeah, it's a boring old conversation for me at this point to explain to an "apolitical" person that Marx was talking about the mandatory nuclear family and then give them a litany of examples of how people are so often forced to stay in toxic households by material pressures. By then, I can reframe the topic (often paired with the same fear for religion) as being about the removal of factors that force people to live or worship in ways that they don't want to

Whether or not they learn anything from it, they usually act like they have something new to think about