Argintina literally had a US installed fascist government that was torturing people for being socialists at the time of the Falklands war. Losing the Falklands war was one of the main things that led to the collapse of said government
That it's literally a foreign government's outpost on an island directly off the coast of Argentina, which Argentina could benefit from (and Argentina isn't as rich as Britain).
What claim do a bunch of British people who get their British people food shipped half way around the world have? They don't even import food from Argentina as far as I know.
Apparently they even has a ship they sail around there. Woo hoo massively polluting military industrial complex!
it's been a british outpost since before argentina was even a country
it's just a spanish imperial claim inherited by a colony, pursued by the colonizers
It literally has nothing to do with that. It's land off the coast of Argentina. They should be allowed to use it and not have British oil drilling and navy ships patrolling around it.
How long before the US decides to coup Argentina and sets up some spy base or black site on the islands, if they don't have one already?
How long before the US decides to coup Argentina and sets up some spy base or black site on the islands, if they don't have one already?
and how would that be affected by the brits owning it?
as a communsist, the thing i care about the most is people and the people of the falklands overwhelmingly want to be part of this hell hole for some fucking reason
and given that the islands were uninhabited before they were colonised, there is no justification for suddnly making them argentinian
Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else. Who cares that they were uninhabited beforehand or whatever. The here and now is that Britain is drilling for resources there.
The UK is 11th in terms of median wealth, Argentina is 119th. Should oil money off the coast of Argentina benefit Argentinians, or British people?
they have claim to the islands because they fucking live there dude
because i'm sensing a "you're just a british nationalist" coming in the immediate future, i'll just make my position clear
if the islanders decided that they would rather be argentinian, i would wholeheartedly support argentina's claim to the islands
This. People first. Peoples right to self determination and democracy from top to bottom in society is paramount. As communists, that principle is absolute.
There's a point where it tips from "just some people living on an island" and becomes "Britain maintaining an imperial outpost for resource extraction".
Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else.
There is no reason whatsoever to override self determination because There were no indigenous people there when it was settled. So the people who live there come first.
Do white people in the US have claims to be here if the area they're in was colonized by white people without indigenous people in the immediate vicinity.
I agree, how dare the Irish occupiers squat on the western british isles, intruding into the UK's rightful atlantic EEZ.
The people that live there will be returned to rightful british rule, as that is clearly what is harmonious.
The Caribbean is a whole chain of islands. Cuba has like 20 million people. It's an actual independent country.
The Falklands are some islands with like 3000 people plus a bunch of military crap, owned by a country 7000 miles away so they can drill for oil in the nearby waters. They literally import their food from Britain instead of just importing it from Argrntina.
lol apparently even an Israeli company os exploring oil there: https://theprint.in/world/argentina-sanctions-israeli-oil-company-over-exploration-near-falklands/928153
You're fretting over 3000 people who are only supported by the British as a human shield for resource extraction by colonial powers.
Ok keep supporting British and Israeli oil drilling off the coast of a much poorer country because 3000 white people happen to live there. Those oil companies are indigenous!!!
how is it fair and square they literally fought a war over it, to prevent argentina from getting to use it
Argintina literally had a US installed fascist government that was torturing people for being socialists at the time of the Falklands war. Losing the Falklands war was one of the main things that led to the collapse of said government
what justifiable claim does Argentina have to the islands?
That it's literally a foreign government's outpost on an island directly off the coast of Argentina, which Argentina could benefit from (and Argentina isn't as rich as Britain).
What claim do a bunch of British people who get their British people food shipped half way around the world have? They don't even import food from Argentina as far as I know.
Apparently they even has a ship they sail around there. Woo hoo massively polluting military industrial complex!
it's been a british outpost since before argentina was even a country
it's just a spanish imperial claim inherited by a colony, pursued by the colonizers
It literally has nothing to do with that. It's land off the coast of Argentina. They should be allowed to use it and not have British oil drilling and navy ships patrolling around it.
How long before the US decides to coup Argentina and sets up some spy base or black site on the islands, if they don't have one already?
and how would that be affected by the brits owning it?
as a communsist, the thing i care about the most is people and the people of the falklands overwhelmingly want to be part of this hell hole for some fucking reason
and given that the islands were uninhabited before they were colonised, there is no justification for suddnly making them argentinian
Not like those people have any more claim to the islands than anyone else. Who cares that they were uninhabited beforehand or whatever. The here and now is that Britain is drilling for resources there.
The UK is 11th in terms of median wealth, Argentina is 119th. Should oil money off the coast of Argentina benefit Argentinians, or British people?
they have claim to the islands because they fucking live there dude
because i'm sensing a "you're just a british nationalist" coming in the immediate future, i'll just make my position clear
if the islanders decided that they would rather be argentinian, i would wholeheartedly support argentina's claim to the islands
This. People first. Peoples right to self determination and democracy from top to bottom in society is paramount. As communists, that principle is absolute.
There's a point where it tips from "just some people living on an island" and becomes "Britain maintaining an imperial outpost for resource extraction".
There is no reason whatsoever to override self determination because There were no indigenous people there when it was settled. So the people who live there come first.
"self determination" of a bunch of white people living under the rule of the extremely present (navy ships and military planes) British government.
well as they were born there and have the only sensible claim of being native to the island
I would absolutely say the first group of people to settle a previously uninhabited area have more claim than anyone else.
“Native Americans have no more claim to Ohio than anyone else” yeah except being the first people to live there
Do white people in the US have claims to be here if the area they're in was colonized by white people without indigenous people in the immediate vicinity.
There's a lot to criticize the UK for. Fairly inhabiting barren rocks without an indigenous population isn't one of them.
Nobody should have control over land on the other side of the planet.
Why shouldn't the Falklands be Chilean then?
Chile is further away. Didn't luck out I guess.
You're right, Argentina's shouldn't have control over an island hundreds of miles away, glad we could agree
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I agree, how dare the Irish occupiers squat on the western british isles, intruding into the UK's rightful atlantic EEZ. The people that live there will be returned to rightful british rule, as that is clearly what is harmonious.
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Just give everything back to the Romans
Independent Gaul!
all of gaul except for one village should be Roman
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Do you think there's a reason you wouldn't want your food imports dependent on a hostile power
100% agree, the US’s claim to Cuba is valid and it should be a US territory.
That’s how we handle islands off the coast right? Significantly closer than the Falklands, and the US actually owned Cuba for a while!
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The Caribbean is a whole chain of islands. Cuba has like 20 million people. It's an actual independent country.
The Falklands are some islands with like 3000 people plus a bunch of military crap, owned by a country 7000 miles away so they can drill for oil in the nearby waters. They literally import their food from Britain instead of just importing it from Argrntina.
lol apparently even an Israeli company os exploring oil there: https://theprint.in/world/argentina-sanctions-israeli-oil-company-over-exploration-near-falklands/928153
You're fretting over 3000 people who are only supported by the British as a human shield for resource extraction by colonial powers.
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Ok keep supporting British and Israeli oil drilling off the coast of a much poorer country because 3000 white people happen to live there. Those oil companies are indigenous!!!
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No I think Argentinian oil should benefit Argentinians and not the British Empire and Israel lmao.