Worth noting that the Chinese ambassador also called it the Malvinas throughout, not the Falklands.

  • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Yeah? And? meaningless info?

    The largest employment sector on the Islands is the Falkland Islands Government – accounting for 28% of all employment.

    you click that link and then click another link to get an awful article that is like a 10000ft "info"graphic scroll and this is all it says about it. 28% are employed by the Falkland Islands Government, which is not "the British government" unless you want to just not distinguish between them for rhetoric.

    Without any more information, like, so what? That could mean literally anything depending on the capacity of the local government and services it offers. But okay I guess the Materialist Take here is 28% of the population (the overwhelming majority of which is making poverty wages) are like British Home Office (that's the british state dept right? I don't fucking know) agents doing an espionage on Argentina

    • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Well, there's also the 1000+ British troops stationed at the military base there.

      I didn't make any claim about what should or shouldn't be done with the island. I'd said your characterization of the island's population was bad. It was wrong in a way that was misleading. I don't think you were doing that intentionally, but its not an island of shepherds.

      Do you have a source for this?

      the overwhelming majority of which is making poverty wages)

      I can see the Falkland gov's website states:

      Amongst 15-64 year olds, the labour force participation rate is 95%, which is amongst the highest in the world, compared to International Labour Organization (ILO) data. The reported average annual income for working-age people in employment was £29,400 (£30,600 in Stanley, £25,600 in Camp). The per capita average income for all individuals aged 16 years and over (working and non-working) is £26,700 (£27,300 in Stanley, £23,500 in Camp). The average annual household income in 2021 was reported to be £53,100 (£56,800 in Stanley, £47,000 in Camp); 22% higher than in 2016, in absolute terms.

      Those incomes don't sound like "poverty wages," though I'm sure cost of living is higher in some ways on an island. Though the accommodation and utilities seem pretty affordable compared to those mean incomes. In fact, its more affordable than most areas in the mid-atlantic US, but that probably says more about amerikkka

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Well, there's also the 1000+ British troops stationed at the military base there

        pretty sure those aren't "residents" unless you're attempting to make your own characterization of the island's population

        Do you have a source for this?

        literally your own link...

        click link

        click the hyper link on "one third of the population" working for the government

        Pay is low by UK standards - the average income is £20,100, compared to £26,500 for UK full-time workers. It also varies, depending on where people live.

        The census points out wide inequality of earnings too:

        ***almost half of all residents (49.2%) report an annual income of less than £15,000 (with almost 12% reporting income of less than £5000). ***Most retirees report incomes of less than £15,000 per annum, however fully two thirds of all persons reporting incomes of less than £15,000 per annum also report that they are employed

        so ya idk man

        I'm not going to be on the side of Argentina forcibly deporting people who live there

        • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          The facts you cite are bad, but it's also not what you claimed. Less than 50% of a segment of the island's population is not an "overwhelming majority" of the island making "poverty wages" like you claimed.

          Also, I never argued for Argentina deporting people. I don't see what bearing the income of the population would have not deporting or deporting them.

          At this point, you've both misrepresented what the source says and put words in my mouth I never said or even implied. You've done this repeatedly.

            • Bakzik [he/him, comrade/them]
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              2 years ago

              I saw this a lot in this thread today.

              Where is Argentina supporting deportation of the Falklaners/Malvinenses? What is your source? The Sun?

              This is 2023, not 1982.

              PD: Cuba supports Argentina. Always the same map supports Argentina https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Countries_that_support_Argentina%27s_claim_of_sovereignty_over_the_Falkland_Islands,_South_Georgia,_and_South_Sandwich_islands.png. This should ring you a bell or two.

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      the median income on the falkland isles is double that of England. Most people in England are broke as shit but still

      also the UK equivalent of the state dept is the foreign office

      • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        Literally following the link guy posted above indicates fully half of Falkland islanders make $19k or less per year, literally the link dude gave me, but you know what it doesn't even matter because i still don't support Argentina deporting them shrug-outta-hecks

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          https://www.falklands.gov.fk/policy/2021-census/census

          Amongst 15-64 year olds, the labour force participation rate is 95%, which is amongst the highest in the world, compared to International Labour Organization (ILO) data. The reported average annual income for working-age people in employment was £29,400 (£30,600 in Stanley, £25,600 in Camp). The per capita average income for all individuals aged 16 years and over (working and non-working) is £26,700 (£27,300 in Stanley, £23,500 in Camp).

          The average annual household income in 2021 was reported to be £53,100 (£56,800 in Stanley, £47,000 in Camp); 22% higher than in 2016, in absolute terms.

          it was the average annual household income I was thinking about although I did overestimate the degree to which it was higher