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  • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It's just pseudo intellectual spectacle of nearly the same ilk as Shapiro

    • DiltoGeggins [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I personally don't agree with that. Shapiro lies in his interactions with people he interviews. This guy just appears to be asking for some proof to back up the maga claim. But I guess the guy's over the top, belligerent response just shows that the maga tactic can be effective in pushing a "both sides" perspective even though there are differences. Again jmo ..

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I'm not deeply familiar with Shapiro or anything (I don't hate myself like that) but what I've seen of him mostly does not have him lie in terms of statistics he repeats but use extremely faulty inference to come to false conclusions from that correct information. Anyway, my point isn't that they are identical but that the formula of live debate is already ineffective at changing minds or coming to "the truth of the matter," and it goes from silly to overtly masturbatory when you deliberately pick some troglodyte on the street to "debate" you when you are prepared and they are not, you have media training and they do not, and you know you can just not use the footage if you do poorly but they know they will end up being used in the footage if they do poorly.

        Maga guy is a moron but productions like this only serve to jerk off Dem partisans so they will be self-satisfied enough to not question why ghouls like Biden aren't actually making things better.

        • DiltoGeggins [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          but use extremely faulty inference to come to false conclusions from that correct information.

          That's a euphemism for lying, btw

          • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            Not really? I mean, bullshitting probably, but usually people don't consider faulty inference to be lying (they consider false premises to be lies) and Shapiro is honestly stupid enough that he could very well believe his incorrect extrapolations a fair portion of the time. In classic debate club fashion, I think he's entirely unconcerned with the truth of the matter and just stringing together things that he believes will come off to the audience as correct.