we've got the same posts sitting at the top of "active" for days and then tons of posts showing up in "hot" with near zero comments. new "hot" is the same as old "active"

switch it over to "hot" or you aren't a real poster

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Active is best because conversations can actually flow and continue instead of reddit where once the most popular comments are established, they just snowball from there

    The active algorithm is quite possibly the best thing about Lemmy that makes it distinct from reddit

    If people are still talking about a post from days ago rather than something new, then allow that to happen

    • TheBeatles [any]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah I always hated the reddit paradigm where posts get buried just because they're a few hours old. Often I'll see an interesting post that I want to comment on but I dont bother because the post is over 12 hours old so nobody will see it.

      There's a "new comments" mode now which works like a forum where posts get bumped to the top when someone comments on it. Makes more sense to me than any of these vaguely defined algorithms.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      The point of threads being daily is that people visit daily and want something new within the time range of their regular visiting pattern. If the content isn't new within that time range they go elsewhere looking for content to amuse themselves instead - because they already looked at this content 2 days ago.

      If Lemmy sticks to this sort as its main thing then it will simply lose to competing systems that provide daily content instead.

      • yastreb
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        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Honestly most people don’t have the time to visit the site daily

          The average internet user spends 2hours and 30minutes per day viewing social media. People definitely have the time. This is something a lot of people do in a break, eating breakfast, on the toilet or sitting on the bus. Each look at their phone adds up.

          Only a small portion of that is going to Reddit, a lot of it is probably Facebook and Twitter. But I don't think the "don't have time" point works here.

      • GaveUp [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        This could be true and makes sense but for now, it's an unsupported hypothesis

        Posts that stay high after 2 days like the China Falklands one means that many people are commenting and interacting with that post, which means there is a lot of interest

        If a post doesn't Garner much attention, then it would quickly fall off and die after a day regardless

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          It's the same on all social media. Everything is built around creating daily routines and habits.

          One thing that most social media people recognise is that social media kinda slots into people's free time in a habitual way. You're on the toilet, or the bus, or you just sat down at the computer at work, or you just got on lunch, or you're standing in line at the store. These things happen routinely, every single day, where people do the same thing every single day when it happens.

          When they check [social media] they're doing it for their quick dose of routine slop.

          Posts that stay high after 2 days like the China Falklands one means that many people are commenting and interacting with that post, which means there is a lot of interest

          Platforming drama and controversy doesn't mean good content. There's a danger in this mindset of falling into the trap of "all engagement is good engagement".

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I can only give my anecdotal example, but for me at least, Awoo is 100% correct. My go-to to kill time at work was to go through all the new posts by sorting top (day) and then active to see all the (non-dead) posts that day.

          Something worth considering is that the posts with the most comments on hexbear tend to be pointless struggle sessions or drama which if anything are negative value to the site. This may change with federation and/or growth, but the site culture is pretty solidified at this point.